From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Fogel Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: the bzr switchover, how I got up to speed with bzr Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:40:28 -0400 Message-ID: <873acumsn7.fsf@canonical.com> References: <20090329204425.GA6511@reforged> Reply-To: Karl Fogel NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1238460047 4628 80.91.229.12 (31 Mar 2009 00:40:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 00:40:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Mike Mattie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 31 02:42:05 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LoS3H-0005gZ-Um for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 02:42:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53101 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LoS1u-0007W0-Gs for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:40:38 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LoS1p-0007Vu-Fv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:40:33 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LoS1o-0007VV-H0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:40:32 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=47612 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LoS1o-0007VP-Bx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:40:32 -0400 Original-Received: from adelie.canonical.com ([91.189.90.139]:54033) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LoS1n-0000BQ-Uu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:40:32 -0400 Original-Received: from hutte.canonical.com ([91.189.90.181]) by adelie.canonical.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69 #1 (Debian)) id 1LoS1m-0003ov-IE; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 01:40:30 +0100 Original-Received: from cpe-72-225-235-225.nyc.res.rr.com ([72.225.235.225] helo=floss) by hutte.canonical.com with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LoS1m-00068D-Dq; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 01:40:30 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20090329204425.GA6511@reforged> (Mike Mattie's message of "Sun, 29 Mar 2009 13:44:26 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:109931 Archived-At: Mike Mattie writes: > I read the discussion on the bzr switchover and I wanted to share > my experience with using bzr. > > Before Bzr I used svn exclusively. To learn bzr I started off > using it in conjuction with svn. In fact I still do. > > What I did is create a shared repository with a subversion > checkout of my project in it. I was then able to use > bzr to create "focused patches". > > I learned how to use feature branches, shelve, and the > differences between commit,push, bound branches etc. > > I would suggest to the developers who want to get > the hang of bzr before a flag day that this approach of > using bzr in conjunction with the existing RCS system (CVS) > is enormously beneficial. > > In retrospect it was far better than doing a flag day and fumbling > with the learning curve. I knew I would botch things while I was > learning the ropes and I was able to scratch a few repositories after > some novice botches. > > A tip from the peanut gallery for what it is worth. Thank you; that is an excellent idea. But can one do foreign branching from CVS with Bzr? I don't know of any plugins that do that. http://bazaar-vcs.org/BzrForeignBranches and http://bazaar-vcs.org/BzrPlugins seem to indicate not. There are ways to serve a Bzr repository to a CVS client (which is of little use to us), and ways to import CVS sources into Bzr (useful to us, but there's no provision for committing back as with a true foreign branch). -Karl