From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: interactive-p and called-interactively-p Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:58:47 -0400 Message-ID: <873a77v31k.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <8AD328622F5645B282D1E72CB4582EF3@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1251770352 26461 80.91.229.12 (1 Sep 2009 01:59:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 01:59:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 01 03:59:05 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MiIeF-0001Z3-E9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2009 03:59:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41353 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MiIeE-00004t-3x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:59:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MiIe8-0008WQ-Cs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:58:56 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MiIe3-0008T8-R1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:58:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36596 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MiIe3-0008T5-Kl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:58:51 -0400 Original-Received: from pantheon-po44.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.78]:48948) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MiIe0-0000NJ-Pa; Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:58:48 -0400 Original-Received: from furry (dhcp128036014244.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.244]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po44.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n811wl0Y015787 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:58:47 -0400 Original-Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BBEB5C070; Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:58:47 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 31 Aug 2009 19:56:43 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:114932 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> but I think the important point is that its name fits its meaning. >> The name interactive-p does not correspond to its meaning, and users >> very often guess wrong about what it does. > > This is clearly true, but while confusion has been common, it hasn't > been an actual problem either. And in any case, as I mentioned, we > should rather encourage programmers to stay avoid from both of > those functions. I think the status quo is acceptable. We already state, in the doc-string of called-interactively-p, that you can do the same thing with an interactive spec. Further tinkering is just noise.