From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r99650: Put scroll-baron right by default on UNIX. Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:43:22 +0100 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <873a00bl85.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <87ocitw2dl.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <83pr371rl2.fsf@gnu.org> <873a03pmgn.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <20100314093329.GA1362@muc.de> <87pr37jh99.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87vdcxu72p.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1268737568 9884 80.91.229.12 (16 Mar 2010 11:06:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:06:08 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 16 12:05:52 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NrUaE-0002TX-Fl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:05:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43726 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NrUaE-0007q8-2I for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 07:05:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NrUFa-0002py-EM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 06:43:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=33486 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NrUFY-0002o9-CC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 06:43:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NrUFW-0003IB-HS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 06:43:48 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:49192) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NrUFW-0003Hp-8I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 06:43:46 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NrUFS-0000xg-9x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:43:42 +0100 Original-Received: from p5b2c24a9.dip.t-dialin.net ([91.44.36.169]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:43:42 +0100 Original-Received: from dak by p5b2c24a9.dip.t-dialin.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:43:42 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 21 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p5b2c24a9.dip.t-dialin.net X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.92 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:aLrIiuQTx59zvbV01y/lfq3eKdM= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:122051 Archived-At: James Cloos writes: >>>>>> "DA" == Drew Adams writes: > > DA> But is it fortuitous or a general rule? If you change the frame text > DA> size, does the scroll-bar width change accordingly? > > I tested it, and did some doc grepping. It is indeed merely a coincidence. > > And even appears to be the default width for Xaw3d. > > But I suspect that default was chosen to blend in well with default > fonts in the 14 to 16 px range. So although it isn't automated, it > probably is, none-the-less, by design. Emacs 19 had a rather rigid character-cell based layout. It is possible that the Xaw code (likely the first supported toolkit, or close) still had its default chosen with that restriction in mind. -- David Kastrup