From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus overrides.texi and WEBHACKDEVEL Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2011 09:18:37 -0600 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <8739o2bjci.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <83ei7makon.fsf@gnu.org> <83ei7makon.fsf@gnu.org> <838vxuaek9.fsf@gnu.org> <877hdebm01.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <831v3ma532.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1296919167 25289 80.91.229.12 (5 Feb 2011 15:19:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 15:19:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 05 16:19:23 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pljuy-0006Wh-MO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 16:19:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34415 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Pljux-0008Kl-Vl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 10:19:19 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=37065 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Pljuj-0008I7-24 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 10:19:15 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PljuY-0007wR-LX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 10:18:57 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:38947) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PljuY-0007wJ-Ad for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 10:18:54 -0500 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PljuT-0006GP-Tk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 16:18:49 +0100 Original-Received: from c-67-186-102-106.hsd1.il.comcast.net ([67.186.102.106]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 16:18:49 +0100 Original-Received: from tzz by c-67-186-102-106.hsd1.il.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 16:18:49 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 31 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-67-186-102-106.hsd1.il.comcast.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:kbZjduFhh6w2ynwXmhhYeSIpvxQ= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:135616 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:76398 Archived-At: On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 17:12:01 +0200 Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Ted Zlatanov >> Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2011 08:21:18 -0600 >> Cc: ding@gnus.org >> >> Now, overrides.texi is for Gnus manuals overrides: settings we may want >> to propagate to all our manuals. So I think it makes sense to have it, >> just not the way I did it with shell redirection. I renamed it to >> gnus-overrides.texi and it can be used for things we want to use in all >> the Gnus manuals in the future. I hope that's OK with everyone; if not >> it's easy enough to pull that include out. EZ> I don't necessarily see a problem, but I don't understand why you need EZ> a .texi file for these overrides. At least the "@set FOO" part of EZ> those overrides can be easily handled by add -DFOO switch to EZ> MAKEINFO_OPTS. It's for general text variables which are awkward in Makefiles, especially if we need many. I can see many uses in the Gnus manuals. EZ> More generally, what is a user supposed to do if she does want to put EZ> something on gnus-overrides.texi? That's a versioned file, so "bzr EZ> status" will show it as modified, and there's still a danger of having EZ> it committed inadvertently. How is this better than just modifying EZ> gnu.texi or any other file directly? The user wouldn't touch them, they are for the developers. I guess "gnus-includes.texi" would be a less confusing name? Ted