From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Should Emacs provide a uuid function? Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 18:06:06 +0900 Message-ID: <8739ky94e9.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87ipu3v0ru.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <871v0raqub.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <42A7030B-DE0C-4CCA-A768-B82BE70C42F9@raeburn.org> <87y62yafdn.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <2E30D21A-83C0-477A-AB08-2E933A16AC2D@raeburn.org> <8762pxafce.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <09410824-6882-4736-9DB4-7D0A4837A73D@raeburn.org> <87aaf78txz.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <1637E3D0-0B95-4A47-9D27-1AE7B576BAFC@raeburn.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1304240423 27484 80.91.229.12 (1 May 2011 09:00:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 09:00:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs Dev To: Ken Raeburn Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 01 11:00:19 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QGSVm-0002zf-TR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 May 2011 11:00:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39527 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QGSVm-0006hC-CF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 May 2011 05:00:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:47555) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QGSVZ-0006NQ-SM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 May 2011 05:00:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QGSVY-0004NR-UE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 May 2011 05:00:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mgmt1.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.223]:38166) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QGSVY-0004KR-LY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 May 2011 05:00:04 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt1.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ECBC3FA06CB; Sun, 1 May 2011 18:00:01 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9441E1A389A; Sun, 1 May 2011 18:06:06 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <1637E3D0-0B95-4A47-9D27-1AE7B576BAFC@raeburn.org> X-Mailer: VM 8.1.93a under 21.5 (beta30) "garlic" f2881cb841b4+ XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 130.158.97.223 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:138940 Archived-At: Ken Raeburn writes: > On its own, I'm not sure it does, either. But if any of the use > cases might want stronger privacy guarantees than some of the > uuidgen implementations provide, or there are portability issues, > then "just use uuidgen in each package" looks like a poor > solution. Let's not oversell this, please. If we want to give anything like a "privacy guarantee" or "solution," we have a truckload of code to audit.... That might be a good thing to do, but I doubt there's much appetite for it in the community at this point in time. "Minor improvement" is more like it.