From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rasmus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: gtk3, emacs 24 and gnome shell Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 09:23:57 +0100 Message-ID: <8739ehfpia.fsf@gmail.com> References: <4EA554D1.1040000@gmail.com> <878voaf05x.fsf@gmail.com> <87ty6xczz2.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1319544512 25216 80.91.229.12 (25 Oct 2011 12:08:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 12:08:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Andrea Crotti , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tassilo Horn Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 25 14:08:28 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RIfnt-0003lU-OK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 14:08:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42732 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RIfnt-0005lK-7Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 08:08:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:53378) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RIcJN-0005ww-Op for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 04:24:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RIcJI-0005T1-Ef for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 04:24:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mailout-eu.gmx.com ([213.165.64.43]:45330) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RIcJH-0005Ss-W6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 04:24:36 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 25 Oct 2011 08:21:39 -0000 Original-Received: from client-80-1-235-63.bsh-bng-011.adsl.virginmedia.net (EHLO pank) [80.1.235.63] by mail.gmx.com (mp-eu002) with SMTP; 25 Oct 2011 10:21:39 +0200 X-Authenticated: #119057330 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/h5r1izmjhco2hsxZTivIbLyFR8p5pwh67cZIAnC V5DykTI5taWVY7 In-Reply-To: <87ty6xczz2.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> (Tassilo Horn's message of "Tue, 25 Oct 2011 09:06:09 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.90 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAElBMVEUbEBlfUk6HeW+Uhnqs n5HXzbyzlR0HAAAACXBIWXMAAABIAAAASABGyWs+AAACOUlEQVQ4EXXBQZajRhAFwJ9MHyCz0Owp QPsGin0LMveWVP/+Vxkkjcct+zkC3wn+hyn+QzKsKdUE7yTqeFnjvgxf+E5G1gjeB68b3qw5SJYl WCfFP356t5KsJUhm/NFE7Dy483DP+JvzoTqdXoNu+I1kkKx19thW7oYnafnkXsu+p5H0DgdxDz7U fi7O+Uyyw6HxtfJp6xdL20DyjsPgweAWrL7sJtYWsiYAMoQHO6OPUbcxWwmy4jAy7p6b2Nuo5GQe ZAXQRK1b3CRtVsjY+1RIdoB47Mv6qRiHhbXuZinIDhB3L24KOW0RdZ5+9CQ7yBisvu2mSHn1uGQ0 ZFU0fQmvaT6rIA9L3ExlJTMkOXemfLIsNrW+T5JG1hFoRu4cPs/Lln9cW/fNuPKaADv7XLKdnbf1 koKcufotA2lIfVZZa3X2Q/CeuWfLwKlYMbWVfS5FxRRUmAK5WLakHhezcVIo7oDhcL6MZmnzSaVp iwH2CcWhnUTl5zYLxMw3AB0eJBlg7W0fslhiVRggAGTuAE2zT1vCiVUReBk6ADJe1VRO5GTs8NQo gGZTE1hx95ZfeBJAxRQikOJ+H3nFiwICQKDJD337hT8UgKgN7uQlKRQPihexxSPoHf7F0uIRe+kg +E4kDcX3bIp3opaG5XAFoPjGzIZlzvmsEBwEiidRs8X77uOK30TxopbKArBTvBO1NEI/boJ39gAI FS+tiSkAUVWI4uMvvJwW2ycAjeCgIip4Gav7BRCB4OUX/82ILRRI/usAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 213.165.64.43 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 08:08:23 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:145511 Archived-At: Tassilo Horn writes: > Rasmus writes: > >>> Anyone else experienced something similar? >> >> Emacs 24 bzr with GTK3 is very unstable on my Archlinux system as >> well. It will often just kill itself. > > If "kill itself" means you close some frame and emacs is killed > completely, that most likely the issue I've described in > <87d3flnxoo.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de>. A more adequate word would have been crash, i.e. a non-expected and undesirable halt. Examples on the top of my head:=20 - I start Gnus. Emacs has some times closed ("crashed") before it got to the group buffer. - Emacs resists on a txt virtual desktop. Some times when I return from the www VD it has disappeared. But, as stated I am not aware of a systematic bug so I'm having a hard time reproducing it. I experience the kill-frame kill-daemon issue you have described in a previous post as well. This is more of an expected kill, though, and thus different from what I am describing above. Is there a way to have Emacs always log itself? =E2=80=93Rasmus --=20 Sent from my Emacs