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From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	Angelo Graziosi <angelo.graziosi@alice.it>,
	"Richard M. Stallman" <rms@gnu.org>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs 23.4 Updated Windows Binaries published
Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 02:01:41 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8739anzyiy.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANbX365845TtQKA-LvdFX-T_fzK4_A+GNfE_3ggxYnpoOMnEXQ@mail.gmail.com>

Lennart Borgman writes:

 > It says "through the same place", not "at the same place". And it also
 > tells what to do if the source is not on the same server as the object
 > code.
 > 
 > I really do not understand. I would be glad if you explained
 > further.

You may be right.  At least, by "same place" I mean "via relative
URI", and I've always read 6(d) that way, but that's clearly my
mistake since it does refer to textual instructions.

The question about a third party's sources, though, I think there's
some ambiguity there.  "You" are required to provide and ensure
availability of the sources; I've always interpreted that as meaning
you need to have access to the server where the archive is hosted, and
the phrase about "operated by a third party" is intended to avoid the
excessive burden (for most folks) of maintaining a host.  Rather, you
can use Savannah or SourceForge, as long as you do the work of
maintaining the copy.

If the intent is in fact to allow a third party's copy to be used, ok,
you're technically right.  But I would consider the necessary legal
arrangements to be prohibitively expensive, compared to a rental
server or a project on Savannah or SourceForge.

 > Updating the DOI-like URI would indeed be problematic since it could
 > still be used for old distributed object. I guess you have to create
 > new numbers for every ojbect distribution.

Yes.  But this isn't that hard; you would use some kind of universal
ID, like the bzr revid (not revno).

 > Ok, I never understood it that way, but you may be right. However even
 > Launchpad seems to get an easy way to download a zip file instead of
 > using Bazaar soon.

Sure, that would certainly satisfy the "equivalent copying" requirement.



  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-06 17:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-05 16:34 Emacs 23.4 Updated Windows Binaries published Angelo Graziosi
2012-02-05 16:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-02-05 17:12   ` Angelo Graziosi
2012-02-05 17:23     ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-02-06  5:09       ` Christoph Scholtes
2012-02-05 19:10   ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-05 20:48     ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-02-05 21:24       ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-06  4:01         ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-02-06  3:46     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-02-06  4:15       ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-06  5:22         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-02-06  5:42           ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-06  6:26             ` Paul Eggert
2012-02-06  7:12             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-02-06  7:46               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-02-06 13:49                 ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-06 15:46                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-02-06 13:47               ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-06 15:33                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-02-06 15:53                   ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-06 17:01                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2012-02-06 21:40                       ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-07  9:53                 ` Richard Stallman
2012-02-07 13:31                   ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-07 15:57                   ` Paul Eggert
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-02-05  1:04 Christoph Scholtes

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