From: Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: some progress
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 16:03:35 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8738sbh87c.fsf@gilgamesch.quim.ucm.es> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83sj0bmv26.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 21 Jun 2013 16:50:57 +0300")
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>> "Eli" == Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> From: Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es>
>> Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 15:27:49 +0200
>>
>>
>> Well the http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/DisplayEngineForBiDi
>> I am missing interactive function turning bidi on and off.
> There isn't any. Why would you need one?
>> BTW where and how can I use bigger fonts for hebrew? (I am using Laptop
>> with a 12 inch screen and the one emacs uses per default are small)
> Does it help to type "C-x C-+"?
Only a little bit, the ascii chars are getting really bigger the hebrew
ones only a slightly bit. Do I need additional fonts (I am on (K)ubuntu 10.04)???
>> (setq-default bidi-display-reordering t)
> That is already so by default.
>> (defun my-turn-bidi-on ()
>> "Just start with to R2L."
>> (interactive)
>> (setq bidi-paragraph-direction 'right-to-left)
>> (message "R2L on!"))
> No need, Emacs determines the correct base direction of each paragraph
> automatically, using the method described in the UAX#9.
Ok you are right. There are even nikkud!
However the input methods which are offered do no include hebrew
phonetic, by which I mean
"aleph" is on "a" etc.
That is why I use the input via KDE and that is why I need to turn on
R2L manually.
So maybe the best solution would be to provide also hebrew-phonetical[1]
Because I am a little worried how KDE keyboard and nested text may work
together.
I can give it a try to have also a hebrew-phonetical. Which are the
files to be modified?
> And paragraph direction has very little to do with display of
> bidirectional text per se. The latter works no matter what is the
> paragraph's base direction. If it didn't, you'd be unable to have R2L
> text in a middle of an otherwise L2R paragraph.
>> (defun my-turn-bidi-off ()
>> "Just start with to L2R."
>> (interactive)
>> (setq bidi-paragraph-direction 'left-to-right)
>> (message "R2L off!"))
> Likewise, not needed.
Footnotes:
[1] (BTW what is hebrew-lyx suppose to be? KDE also offers it and I cannot
see any difference to standard hebrew, ok I don't have a hebrew keyboard
here, so maybe . / etc are different.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-06-21 14:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-06-21 11:16 bidi support? (Hebrew) Uwe Brauer
2013-06-21 13:27 ` some progress (was: bidi support? (Hebrew)) Uwe Brauer
2013-06-21 13:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-21 14:03 ` Uwe Brauer [this message]
2013-06-21 14:35 ` some progress Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-21 14:53 ` Uwe Brauer
2013-06-21 15:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-21 16:04 ` Uwe Brauer
2013-06-21 18:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-21 17:45 ` Uwe Brauer
2013-06-21 18:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-21 15:02 ` Uwe Brauer
2013-06-21 16:42 ` Uwe Brauer
2013-06-21 18:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-21 19:46 ` Uwe Brauer
2013-06-22 9:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-22 16:25 ` Uwe Brauer
2013-06-22 17:09 ` a strict visual cursor in r2l and l2r buffers (was: some progress) Uwe Brauer
2013-06-22 22:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-23 16:22 ` a strict visual cursor in r2l and l2r buffers Uwe Brauer
2013-06-23 16:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-23 19:43 ` Uwe Brauer
2013-06-24 16:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-29 13:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-29 15:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-29 15:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-29 16:10 ` Uwe Brauer
2013-06-29 17:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-29 17:04 ` Uwe Brauer
2013-06-29 18:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-29 19:33 ` Uwe Brauer
2013-06-29 19:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-21 13:39 ` bidi support? (Hebrew) Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-21 15:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-21 16:09 ` Glenn Morris
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