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From: Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: some progress
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 16:03:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8738sbh87c.fsf@gilgamesch.quim.ucm.es> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83sj0bmv26.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 21 Jun 2013 16:50:57 +0300")

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>> "Eli" == Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

   >> From: Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es>
   >> Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 15:27:49 +0200
   >> 
   >> 
   >> Well the http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/DisplayEngineForBiDi

   >> I am missing interactive function turning bidi on and off.

   > There isn't any.  Why would you need one?

   >> BTW where and how can I use bigger fonts for hebrew? (I am using  Laptop
   >> with a 12 inch screen and the one emacs uses per default are small)

   > Does it help to type "C-x C-+"?
Only  a little bit, the ascii chars are getting really bigger the hebrew
ones only a slightly bit. Do I need additional fonts (I am on (K)ubuntu 10.04)???

   >> (setq-default bidi-display-reordering t)

   > That is already so by default.

   >> (defun my-turn-bidi-on ()
   >> "Just start with  to R2L."
   >> (interactive)
   >> (setq  bidi-paragraph-direction 'right-to-left)
   >> (message "R2L on!"))

   > No need, Emacs determines the correct base direction of each paragraph
   > automatically, using the method described in the UAX#9.

Ok you are right. There are even nikkud!
However the input methods which are offered do no include hebrew
phonetic, by which I mean 


 "aleph" is on "a" etc.

That is why I use the input via KDE and that is why I need to turn on
R2L manually.



So maybe the best solution would be to provide also hebrew-phonetical[1]
Because I am a little worried how KDE keyboard and nested text may work
together.

I can give it a try to have also a hebrew-phonetical. Which are the
files to be modified?



   > And paragraph direction has very little to do with display of
   > bidirectional text per se.  The latter works no matter what is the
   > paragraph's base direction.  If it didn't, you'd be unable to have R2L
   > text in a middle of an otherwise L2R paragraph.

   >> (defun my-turn-bidi-off ()
   >> "Just start with  to L2R."
   >> (interactive)
   >> (setq  bidi-paragraph-direction 'left-to-right)
   >> (message "R2L off!"))

   > Likewise, not needed.

Footnotes:
[1]  (BTW what is hebrew-lyx suppose to be? KDE also offers it and I cannot
see any difference to standard hebrew, ok I don't have a hebrew keyboard
here, so maybe . /  etc are different.



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  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-21 14:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-21 11:16 bidi support? (Hebrew) Uwe Brauer
2013-06-21 13:27 ` some progress (was: bidi support? (Hebrew)) Uwe Brauer
2013-06-21 13:50   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-21 14:03     ` Uwe Brauer [this message]
2013-06-21 14:35       ` some progress Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-21 14:53         ` Uwe Brauer
2013-06-21 15:05           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-21 16:04             ` Uwe Brauer
2013-06-21 18:09               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-21 17:45             ` Uwe Brauer
2013-06-21 18:12               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-21 15:02         ` Uwe Brauer
2013-06-21 16:42         ` Uwe Brauer
2013-06-21 18:10           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-21 19:46             ` Uwe Brauer
2013-06-22  9:53               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-22 16:25                 ` Uwe Brauer
2013-06-22 17:09                 ` a strict visual cursor in r2l and l2r buffers (was: some progress) Uwe Brauer
2013-06-22 22:17                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-23 16:22                     ` a strict visual cursor in r2l and l2r buffers Uwe Brauer
2013-06-23 16:47                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-23 19:43                         ` Uwe Brauer
2013-06-24 16:21                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-29 13:50                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-29 15:17                             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-29 15:26                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-29 16:10                             ` Uwe Brauer
2013-06-29 17:01                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-29 17:04                                 ` Uwe Brauer
2013-06-29 18:09                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-29 19:33                                     ` Uwe Brauer
2013-06-29 19:38                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-21 13:39 ` bidi support? (Hebrew) Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-21 15:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-21 16:09 ` Glenn Morris

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