From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Default behaviour of RET. Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 04:37:21 +0400 Message-ID: <8738nub0ou.fsf@yandex.ru> References: <7e015aeb-d6da-4085-89bd-57bdfb5bc7a0@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1382402269 32320 80.91.229.3 (22 Oct 2013 00:37:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 00:37:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rudalics@gmx.at, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, acm@muc.de, Eli Zaretskii , stephen@xemacs.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 22 02:37:52 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VYPyq-0002Ce-9C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 02:37:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42390 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VYPyp-00028p-AI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 20:37:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54414) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VYPyi-00028O-Cc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 20:37:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VYPyd-00018t-Gx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 20:37:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-lb0-x231.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c04::231]:62125) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VYPyV-00017U-HC; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 20:37:31 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-lb0-f177.google.com with SMTP id u14so2993000lbd.8 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 17:37:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=IS9HvwunD6gfB+hu8dnmPNfX3ySspe3ILGYKUn+51ZY=; b=oDg9P1rGWdAEWgh5E2SPGR5dboOAoCYvGoEoX2JYaH0c/qiamp77XCydfLpPlOJKLu Or6rCwA6kupaMZHxaK8UUT4iZPzl05IlB2K0C6JhXu7hmVHPylUxbdht8Xiy6cYllzjg 3+wHgfw1fFxe2yOFjtrBxCHi5iKuiLqJ2aS7G8Y0TJzZwATxpDByvsxU/T+pJxGixWBm luOLT0HUDBDDZ5fdz716eRGgqAhSDCq1bJcvHlIPQMBIVlW//HSIBNC3txe67/9xrWFn W3LF3YFtaD/KACai1ky464O20uyqJUkJzCzQchTLduDeTyZkNz4Ed3e1EKobcU8P2kK4 KtjA== X-Received: by 10.112.210.136 with SMTP id mu8mr15230006lbc.25.1382402249980; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 17:37:29 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from axl ([178.252.98.87]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ur6sm13885370lbc.5.2013.10.21.17.37.28 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 21 Oct 2013 17:37:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7e015aeb-d6da-4085-89bd-57bdfb5bc7a0@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 21 Oct 2013 16:09:56 -0700 (PDT)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c04::231 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:164448 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: > But especially, I am in favor of keeping _both_ behaviors. The keys > could be swapped, if people think that is the way to go. Swapping wouldn't be the worst idea, but there's also a related default `M-j' keybinding, which invokes a related, but even fancier command. Have `C-j' insert newline, but still have `M-j' do lots more additional stuff would make it less consistent.