From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs completion matches selection UI Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 19:03:17 +0900 Message-ID: <8738mnfna2.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87fvqtg02v.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <877gc5fm30.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <87k3g47m7b.fsf@yandex.ru> <528B6F11.7070607@yandex.ru> <83mwl0fjgy.fsf@gnu.org> <528DDDAD.6080304@yandex.ru> <83fvqpemzv.fsf@gnu.org> <87a9gxf12z.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83r4a8cvmd.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1385201034 11565 80.91.229.3 (23 Nov 2013 10:03:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 10:03:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dgutov@yandex.ru, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 23 11:03:58 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VkA4C-0008DW-1a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 23 Nov 2013 11:03:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42956 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VkA4B-0005kk-Fc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 23 Nov 2013 05:03:55 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58693) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VkA42-0005i4-Hd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Nov 2013 05:03:53 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VkA3v-0002PZ-8d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Nov 2013 05:03:46 -0500 Original-Received: from mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:36016) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VkA3n-0002KL-AQ; Sat, 23 Nov 2013 05:03:31 -0500 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0559970A20; Sat, 23 Nov 2013 19:03:17 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C2CCD1A5193; Sat, 23 Nov 2013 19:03:17 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <83r4a8cvmd.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta34) "kale" 182d01410b8d XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 130.158.97.224 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:165608 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > I find that I'm annoyed by transparency: it makes it hard for me to > catch the stuff at a glance. But maybe it's just a thing that comes > with age. Sounds to me like you just can't win. ;-) Seriously, I think your feelings about the alternatives are a symptom indicating the popup idea is poor design. We should be able to do better.