From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mark H Weaver Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Lisp's future Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 19:51:45 -0400 Message-ID: <8738auyxke.fsf@netris.org> References: <54193A70.9020901@member.fsf.org> <87d2ahm3nw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <871tqneyvl.fsf@netris.org> <87d2a54t1m.fsf@yeeloong.lan> <83lhotme1e.fsf@gnu.org> <871tql17uw.fsf@yeeloong.lan> <838uktm9gw.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9zgarvp.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83y4srjaot.fsf@gnu.org> <83r3yhiu8c.fsf@gnu.org> <83siiw9c6t.fsf@gnu.org> <83zjd3846e.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1413071548 23015 80.91.229.3 (11 Oct 2014 23:52:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 23:52:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dak@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, dmantipov@yandex.ru, emacs-devel@gnu.org, handa@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, stephen@xemacs.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 12 01:52:18 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xd6SP-0007uc-7R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 01:52:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55564 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xd6SO-0006Cr-PB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 19:52:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47561) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xd6SH-0006Cm-TS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 19:52:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xd6SD-0004Bi-GK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 19:52:09 -0400 Original-Received: from world.peace.net ([96.39.62.75]:37574) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xd6S8-00046O-P3; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 19:52:00 -0400 Original-Received: from c-24-62-95-23.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([24.62.95.23] helo=jojen) by world.peace.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Xd6Rq-0008OA-Dq; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 19:51:42 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83zjd3846e.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 11 Oct 2014 10:18:49 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.94 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 96.39.62.75 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:175266 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 21:15:26 -0400 >> From: Richard Stallman >> CC: dak@gnu.org, mhw@netris.org, dmantipov@yandex.ru, >> emacs-devel@gnu.org, handa@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, >> stephen@xemacs.org >> >> > They don't HAVE to be treated the same. We are talking about changes, >> > here. >> >> They will be very deep and invasive changes, because currently the >> encoding/decoding routines don't know the purpose of the stuff they >> are producing. >> >> No, it's just a matter of setting some parameter to specify a particular >> decision in decoding or encoding behavior. > > Specify, and then drag it all the way down the encoding/decoding > machinery. The strictness flag should conceptually be part of the encoding, and thus associated with the I/O port. This would obviate the need to propagate it down through layers of code. Mark