From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ivan Shmakov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: word-wrap and wrapping before window-width Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 16:37:41 +0000 Message-ID: <87387v7p2i.fsf@violet.siamics.net> References: <87sig6xech.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <83fvc5ni0u.fsf@gnu.org> <87k31fwwyv.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <87bnmq9ibf.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <87lhlrx5fc.fsf@building.gnus.org> <878uhrcr5l.fsf@building.gnus.org> <83sifzjflk.fsf@gnu.org> <87egric2ki.fsf_-_@violet.siamics.net> <877fxaa49w.fsf@violet.siamics.net> <831tnicji7.fsf@gnu.org> <87vbks7bk5.fsf@violet.siamics.net> <83r3vga3g1.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3vg73bl.fsf@violet.siamics.net> <838uhndc44.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1420043893 22837 80.91.229.3 (31 Dec 2014 16:38:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 16:38:13 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 31 17:38:08 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y6MHg-0001Qh-81 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2014 17:38:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40654 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y6MHf-00041s-Nj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2014 11:38:07 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33876) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y6MHR-0003dr-Il for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2014 11:37:55 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y6MHQ-0005sa-6r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2014 11:37:53 -0500 Original-Received: from fely.am-1.org ([2a01:4f8:d15:1b86::2]:53346) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y6MHP-0005s1-UH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2014 11:37:52 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=siamics.net; s=a2013295; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date:Sender:References:Subject:To:From; bh=BmphHRcydYgyFgQL+l+gozD+wNpnKcK4lQe4HPXqBF4=; b=k3W88RVZICDHKiSyhCa2eIkbhP7FJMC5EYDdNSnWzJd6stbQqQIC9uIz/5C/W/Z/MLNC6gBGH+j4ZgztN3nfTSZvkCoss5Vof3Unf/OQY66cg0/BPgTx4hULGH8DSQGV4Pw3lE8u7XcES0JAhfirHjuJ2nT1M71xiJ0Ct60RQ3o=; Original-Received: from [2a02:2560:6d4:26ca::1:1d] (helo=violet.siamics.net) by fely.am-1.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y6MHM-0003Ou-MO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2014 16:37:49 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=violet.siamics.net) by violet.siamics.net with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y6MHF-0007oz-Mf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2014 23:37:41 +0700 Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <838uhndc44.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 31 Dec 2014 18:20:59 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a01:4f8:d15:1b86::2 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180902 Archived-At: >>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: >>>>> From: Ivan Shmakov Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 06:15:10 +0000 [=E2=80=A6] >> https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Box-Diagrams.= html > What I see there is not what was described in this discussion. There > are blocks of text there that are exempt from word wrap, that's all. That=E2=80=99s also all what I=E2=80=99ve initially requested: to be able = to mark portions of text as exempt from word wrap. (Or, better still, =E2=80=93 to force truncation for such lines.) > But as soon as you make the window narrow enough to have the > horizontal scroll bar appear, and you scroll horizontally using that > scroll bar, the entire text is scrolled as one rigid body, With lines being wrapped /past/ the window=E2=80=99s own borders, right? So, you=E2=80=99d see exactly the picture Stefan has provided earlier: SM> +---------+ SM> here is t|he example| SM> wrapped t|ext | SM> ^ | SM> window border | SM> | SM> ^ SM> wrap-column Or perhaps even: |=E2=86=90 window borders =E2=86=92| He|e is the more or l|ss th| same example text| =E2=86=96 | | wrap-column Such display is clearly possible with Firefox, while the Emacs display engine so far doesn=E2=80=99t support it. > exactly as Emacs does with horizontal scrolling. It isn=E2=80=99t the behavior I observe, =E2=80=93 when I scroll a Emacs w= indow horizontally, all the lines that were wrapped are magically unwrapped. [=E2=80=A6] --=20 FSF associate member #7257 np. Balance =E2=80=94 David Modica =E2=80=A6 3= 013 B6A0 230E 334A