From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mark Oteiza Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Calling (package-initialize) sooner during initialization Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 11:19:01 -0400 Message-ID: <87383u4yl6.fsf@udel.edu> References: <87383xk4ia.fsf@taylan.uni.cx> <87d22zi69k.fsf@taylan.uni.cx> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1429543189 18951 80.91.229.3 (20 Apr 2015 15:19:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 15:19:49 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 20 17:19:43 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YkDU5-0007g7-To for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 17:19:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54134 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YkDU5-00011C-3x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 11:19:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47439) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YkDTb-000803-Ef for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 11:19:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YkDTV-0007Yl-Cx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 11:19:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qc0-f174.google.com ([209.85.216.174]:33984) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YkDTV-0007Y6-9f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 11:19:05 -0400 Original-Received: by qcyk17 with SMTP id k17so60026120qcy.1 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 08:19:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=ijJ95LSUoo9wrWrCe+3PflqZJ2bAOXxP/qFJXIHmSqs=; b=A2BuYyxh58rij+40sI9MkgLubXrG9B/jex1uDxOVV99OU+XXZtThlsbH5GKQV82l32 Tgpn2bZG5Bahj8wlsjln/WgvVQc+IjMr1KR9Hb5yzHJqBkZUPtkAw8KS/LKbveIKhDFs RnyWWEJvSzFa5OLMGaa3atTB0n2GetcuCDspEUgpOMdTiT8Bh8RR7ipPdyrJ2GGvk6WD J2YfhTd8LTksPQ14le1ox+A1Cr0deuinjHekZqVS5QGuyjb3OH1m7zU1keVT5ZJ7mJat 11Bdrc2fJkxdI9OMz6vCf16l3C+yc51BLtCZfMlB5SczxsgmydFtoKnCz6K8ISaD1Nm7 Y0lQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkoejFSCmVCUm5iHdAM005WwwuGymUjPn7c6XaYPx6jOHMbtFSUmxvpEjrYIkE26bBRjyA2 X-Received: by 10.55.40.91 with SMTP id o88mr29205437qkh.65.1429543143968; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 08:19:03 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from holos.localdomain (c-73-163-124-41.hsd1.md.comcast.net. [73.163.124.41]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id a8sm14632450qkh.43.2015.04.20.08.19.02 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 20 Apr 2015 08:19:02 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by holos.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3E3C966BAA; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 11:19:01 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 20 Apr 2015 08:42:58 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.216.174 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:185711 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> I thought the point of this discussion was to find a solution that >> doesn't require that? > > Right, but in the use-case presented by Artur, I can't see how to do better. How about documenting the use-case in the Emacs manual instead?