From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH PING] Honor 'SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH' when generating autoloads. Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 21:38:51 +0100 Message-ID: <8737voilr8.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87k2ph3mgx.fsf@gnu.org> <87io4lnkyz.fsf@gnu.org> <83mvtwoktg.fsf@gnu.org> <878u5gkakj.fsf@gnu.org> <83a8pwoesc.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1448829563 16387 80.91.229.3 (29 Nov 2015 20:39:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 20:39:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: John Wiegley , alezost@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 29 21:39:11 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a38kY-0005DO-Tn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2015 21:39:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37644 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a38kc-0005lq-Ru for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2015 15:39:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57331) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a38kN-0005la-GM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2015 15:39:00 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a38kM-0003P5-Hi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2015 15:38:59 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:58702) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a38kI-0003OR-KV; Sun, 29 Nov 2015 15:38:54 -0500 Original-Received: from reverse-83.fdn.fr ([80.67.176.83]:53154 helo=pluto) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1a38kH-0007Zd-QI; Sun, 29 Nov 2015 15:38:54 -0500 X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 9 Frimaire an 224 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x3D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: <83a8pwoesc.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 29 Nov 2015 20:12:51 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:195570 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii skribis: >> > Second, I don't see how doing this in only loaddefs.el will help make >> > an Emacs build "reproducible": >>=20 >> This is obviously the first patch of a series. It does not make Emacs >> itself bit-reproducible, but it makes Emacs packages bit-reproducible. >>=20 >> See >> for more info. > > I'd prefer to have the whole series, to see where this is going, and > then commit them in one go. But that's me. John? I should point out that there=E2=80=99s currently no other patch in the ser= ies because we haven=E2=80=99t gotten there yet. ;-) We were looking at making autoload generation deterministic as a first step. For us this fixes non-determinism issues in ~37 packages. Ludo=E2=80=99.