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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:201995 Archived-At: Aha. Clear. >> On Mon, Mar 21 2016 10:07, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> Why to bother with call-with-hard-narrowing and not have all the logic >> in with-hard-narrowing directly? I looks to me that it's better to >> expose hard narrowing to elisp only. If possible it should be >> transparent to low level code. > The macro-expanded code will be written into the .elc files which people > will expect will work in the future without having to recompile. > So any API used by the macro-expanded code ends up being sufficiently > exposed that we can't easily get rid of it. > Stefan