From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Are there non-mingw32 binaries for Windows? Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2016 21:21:52 +0000 Message-ID: <8737il7spb.fsf@russet.org.uk> References: <5c2aca208090e22a5029d348fe2206bb.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1479676973 21961 195.159.176.226 (20 Nov 2016 21:22:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2016 21:22:53 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Kevin Layer Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 20 22:22:45 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c8ZZU-00047p-7x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Nov 2016 22:22:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46269 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c8ZZX-0001xn-KJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Nov 2016 16:22:47 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56810) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c8ZYv-0001xJ-RZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Nov 2016 16:22:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c8ZYr-00074d-TF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Nov 2016 16:22:09 -0500 Original-Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk ([185.116.215.110]:28080) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c8ZYr-00074I-Ho for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Nov 2016 16:22:05 -0500 Original-Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 014F4FEC4F for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2016 21:22:04 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by SpamTitan at mycpanelcloud.co.uk Original-Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 984E6FEC37 for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2016 21:21:54 +0000 (GMT) Original-Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com (cloud103.planethippo.com [31.216.48.48]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 84CB6FEBF0 for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2016 21:21:54 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=SEcbt1r3gJwMkMPzlIJFIH5+UOI+VIAxdVEavdLL1js=; b=1cW7NOejzlS0OGuVpylejych/ 6bjiBkyFJjZWVujvigQHAZ93+nD7ElQg7R6k7vs2LECH/ommp3yERc08VwSR9Z+hCoYBED5wg8r7e Yq0LSmMo1zPByOKkgXrSBSeoyIJ6Y6g3mWZ3U9P+EJ80rD8oaPy51+gBBqhontZ5EfMo5Hx/aB9tA oE4VrJXI+jUwa5ItKyU4aAx0fTljmtM6x2abUZZqYGxzlZfFzJAxDjSzzp7aoK/1THHLcHd4K8vZr VFMU1ltw9o4SuKT/OnHWpmx6W6sSjOIUQMq5RdP32GAvvbUsJI7ky2xO6mW74Mmyms4Pi9/kOa4fJ p0lirdeng==; Original-Received: from cpc14-benw10-2-0-cust305.16-2.cable.virginm.net ([92.234.125.50]:51726 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1c8ZYg-0035O7-5c; Sun, 20 Nov 2016 21:21:54 +0000 In-Reply-To: (Kevin Layer's message of "Thu, 17 Nov 2016 09:54:55 -0800") X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: FreeBSD 8.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 185.116.215.110 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:209512 Archived-At: That's a very good addition, indeed. Installers are certainly a more familiar way for windows users to install things. Let me know if you have any problems with the binaries as they are. Kevin Layer writes: > I've just never used the mingw32 binaries and the installation is more > complex. I have been repackaging the older, single-zip binaries with > an NSIS installer, since it's just easier for Windows people to run an > exe to install. The NSIS installer is here: > > https://github.com/franzinc/emacsinstaller/ > > I'm just embarking on the task of updating it for 25.1, and wanted to > know if the old style binaries were just temporarily missing or gone > forever. So, it's the latter. I'll work to modify the scripts. > > One question about the mingw32 emacs binary: is it like the Cygwin > emacs binary where it uses Cygwin mounts? What I liked about the > native (MSVC) compiled emacs was that it used C:\... instead of /c/... > > Thanks. > > Kevin > > On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 6:58 AM, Phillip Lord > wrote: >> On Wed, November 16, 2016 11:47 pm, Kevin Layer wrote: >>> It seems 24.3 was the last version that had non-mingw32 binaries. I'm >>> speaking of this: >>> >>> https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows/emacs-24.3-bin-i386.zip >>> >>> >>> Is there an equivalent build like this for 25.1? >> >> >> Both builds (32 and 64 bit) for 25.1 use mingw. >> >> I'd like to unpick a bit why you are asking the question, because it may >> mean that our documentation or file naming is confusing. >> >> Are you looking for a "standalone" emacs that can be installed without a >> mingw or msys2 installation? If that is the case, the binaries provided >> will do this job for you. >> >> Are you worried about the altered directory structure (i.e. /var, /bin, >> /etc)? >> >> Do you have some other reason for not using ming compiled binaries? >> >> >> Probably for future releases of windows binaries, I should drop the >> "-ming" from the file name. It's not doing anything. >> >> Phil >>