From: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>, larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: git history tracking across renames (and emacs support)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 06:44:37 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8736wqmle2.fsf@mbork.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83o9fefnv9.fsf@gnu.org>
On 2018-07-11, at 05:32, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>> Anecdotally, every time I want to make a larger commit with a lot of
>> items, it feels to me like paperwork for its own sake and takes up a
>> long time.
I feel exactly the same.
> It usually takes me a few seconds per change, so I don't see why you
> feel like that.
I think Ted feels like that for a similar reason I do. If you do your
contributions at least, say, three times a week, you just remember the
way (and Emacs commands to achieve the desired result). Do it once
every month (or more rarely), and you're completely stuck every time.
> . How do you explain in CONTRIBUTE what should and what shouldn't be
> in a log message? We have trouble getting contributors to follow
> the current format; this one will leave us no levers to ask them to
> do it correctly, I think. The same situation exists with comments,
> but comments we can fix by followup commits, whereas log messages
> are carved in stone once pushed.
I don't think CONTRIBUTE is very clear on how to actually make your
commit message comply with the standards anyway.
I could try to make some simple change to see where the friction is so
that CONTRIBUTE can be made better, or even create a detailed technical
HOWTO explaining the steps you should take to create a correct commit
message. I don't know about Ted and others, but for me that would be
a tremendous help with the process which I now consider arcane and
time-consuming.
Best,
--
Marcin Borkowski
http://mbork.pl
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2017-12-15 21:26 ` The name gnus-cloud.el Richard Stallman
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2017-12-17 22:31 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-12-17 22:57 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-12-18 21:15 ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-17 23:20 ` Stephen Berman
2017-12-18 21:17 ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-17 23:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-12-18 0:33 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-12-18 3:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-18 21:16 ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-19 3:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-21 16:50 ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-21 17:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-22 18:47 ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-22 18:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-22 19:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-23 14:58 ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-23 15:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-24 20:34 ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-25 16:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-25 22:27 ` Paul Eggert
2017-12-26 19:40 ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-10 13:16 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-12-24 20:34 ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-25 16:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-31 16:27 ` Steinar Bang
2017-12-31 16:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-31 18:12 ` Óscar Fuentes
2017-12-31 18:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-01 0:48 ` Steinar Bang
2018-01-01 4:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-31 18:27 ` Andreas Schwab
2018-01-01 1:05 ` Steinar Bang
2018-01-01 4:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-01 10:07 ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) (Was: The name gnus-cloud.el) Steinar Bang
2018-01-01 10:59 ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) Andreas Schwab
2018-01-01 21:40 ` Steinar Bang
2018-01-01 11:00 ` Andreas Schwab
2018-01-01 21:37 ` Steinar Bang
2018-01-01 11:06 ` Andreas Schwab
2018-01-01 21:36 ` Steinar Bang
2018-01-01 21:59 ` Andreas Schwab
2018-01-01 22:42 ` Steinar Bang
2018-01-01 22:04 ` Óscar Fuentes
2018-01-01 22:45 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-01-02 0:02 ` Óscar Fuentes
2018-01-02 1:15 ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) (Was: The name gnus-cloud.el) Richard Stallman
2018-01-02 8:06 ` Paul Eggert
2018-01-02 8:49 ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-10 13:14 ` Ted Zlatanov
2018-07-10 15:05 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-07-10 15:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-10 20:54 ` Ted Zlatanov
2018-07-10 23:04 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-07-11 3:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-11 3:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-11 4:44 ` Marcin Borkowski [this message]
2018-07-11 8:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-11 13:54 ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support), Re: git history tracking across renames (and emacs support), Re: git history tracking across renames (and emacs support), " Ted Zlatanov
2018-07-11 15:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-11 16:09 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-07-11 17:13 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2018-07-11 22:50 ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-11 23:04 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-07-12 23:35 ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-13 20:13 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2018-07-14 7:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-11 17:31 ` Ted Zlatanov
2018-07-11 18:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-11 20:14 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-11 22:36 ` João Távora
2018-07-12 2:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-12 9:04 ` João Távora
2018-07-12 13:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-12 16:26 ` João Távora
2018-07-12 16:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-12 16:47 ` João Távora
2018-07-12 16:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-12 16:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-12 16:56 ` João Távora
2018-07-12 17:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-12 19:37 ` Ted Zlatanov
2018-07-13 6:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-12 17:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-12 23:12 ` João Távora
2018-07-13 18:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-14 17:36 ` [PATCH] New option to make C-x 4 a use file-less ChangeLog buffers (was Re: git history tracking across renames (and emacs support)) João Távora
2018-07-15 5:33 ` [PATCH] New option to make C-x 4 a use file-less ChangeLog buffers Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-07-15 10:41 ` João Távora
2018-07-15 14:11 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-07-16 2:15 ` [PATCH] New option to make C-x 4 a use file-less ChangeLog buffers (was Re: git history tracking across renames (and emacs support)) Stefan Monnier
2018-07-16 10:10 ` João Távora
2018-07-16 12:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-16 14:02 ` João Távora
2018-07-16 15:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-16 18:00 ` João Távora
2018-07-16 18:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-16 18:50 ` João Távora
2018-07-16 21:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-21 10:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-16 15:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-16 23:02 ` João Távora
2018-07-21 10:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-21 13:02 ` João Távora
2018-07-21 13:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-21 15:08 ` João Távora
2018-07-21 16:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-10-08 1:10 ` Ted Zlatanov
2018-10-08 1:31 ` João Távora
2018-07-12 13:36 ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) Stefan Monnier
2018-07-12 15:53 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-07-12 16:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-12 16:48 ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-12 17:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-12 20:01 ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-12 20:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-12 20:28 ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-13 3:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-13 8:18 ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-13 12:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-13 13:07 ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-13 15:29 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-07-13 15:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-12 16:40 ` João Távora
2018-07-12 16:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-12 23:33 ` João Távora
2018-07-13 18:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-13 19:45 ` João Távora
2018-07-13 20:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-11 17:08 ` Radon Rosborough
2018-07-11 17:56 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-11 18:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-11 22:51 ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-12 14:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-11 22:51 ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-12 19:46 ` Ted Zlatanov
2018-07-12 23:03 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-12 23:39 ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-11 18:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-12 17:03 ` Radon Rosborough
2018-07-12 17:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-13 4:33 ` Radon Rosborough
2018-07-13 8:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-13 14:15 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-13 14:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-13 16:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-13 23:11 ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-14 6:58 ` Commit header lines (was: git history tracking across renames (and emacs support)) Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-14 16:09 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-14 16:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-14 21:57 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-12 19:42 ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) Ted Zlatanov
2018-07-13 6:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-02 16:15 ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) (Was: The name gnus-cloud.el) Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-03 2:50 ` Paul Eggert
2018-01-03 3:24 ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) Stefan Monnier
2018-01-03 15:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-03 18:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-03 18:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-03 20:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-03 20:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-03 22:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-04 3:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-04 5:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-04 6:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-04 8:03 ` Paul Eggert
2018-01-04 14:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-04 16:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-04 13:15 ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-01-05 3:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-03 18:29 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-01-03 22:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-04 12:02 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-01-04 18:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-03 15:32 ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) (Was: The name gnus-cloud.el) Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-03 20:11 ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) Stefan Monnier
2018-01-03 16:42 ` Stephen Leake
2018-01-04 11:46 ` Richard Stallman
2018-01-03 3:08 ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) (Was: The name gnus-cloud.el) Richard Stallman
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2018-01-08 2:16 ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) (Was: The name gnus-cloud.el) Richard Stallman
2018-01-08 4:22 ` Paul Eggert
2018-01-08 18:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-08 18:41 ` Paul Eggert
2018-01-08 19:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-08 19:29 ` Paul Eggert
2018-01-08 21:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-09 2:55 ` Richard Stallman
2018-01-09 7:27 ` Paul Eggert
2018-01-10 3:03 ` Richard Stallman
2018-01-10 8:22 ` Paul Eggert
2018-01-10 15:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-11 22:08 ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) Stefan Monnier
2018-01-12 8:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-13 2:33 ` Paul Eggert
2018-01-13 5:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-13 8:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-13 10:31 ` Tim Landscheidt
2018-01-13 17:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-13 19:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-13 21:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-13 19:35 ` Paul Eggert
2018-01-13 19:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-13 20:22 ` Paul Eggert
2018-01-14 3:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-13 8:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-16 2:16 ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) (Was: The name gnus-cloud.el) Richard Stallman
2018-01-09 2:54 ` Richard Stallman
2018-01-02 22:04 ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) Steinar Bang
2018-01-02 5:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-02 17:34 ` The name gnus-cloud.el Karl Fogel
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