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From: John Shahid <jvshahid@gmail.com>
To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>
Cc: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org>,
	"Paul Eggert" <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>,
	emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>,
	"João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>,
	"Stefan Monnier" <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Subject: Re: sudo:: method in tramp possible security issue
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 09:55:27 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8736ruo4yo.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y39mo53r.fsf@gmx.de>


Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de> writes:

> John Shahid <jvshahid@gmail.com> writes:
>
> Hi John,
>
>> Is there a reason for doing a manual expiration instead of relying on
>> the default sudo behavior.  If tramp start a new sudo shell for example
>> to get file attributes, then sudo can take care of caching the password
>> or asking for it after the configured timeout.  That would consolidate
>> the configuration in one place (i.e. /etc/sudoers for the timeout) as
>> well as let users manage the cache (e.g. sudo -k when the user logs out)
>> the same way they do today.
>
> The point is that Tramp (until now) keeps a session open forever. Tramp
> doesn't "start a new sudo shell for example to get file attributes".
> Therefore, there's no chance that sudo could ask for a password,
> again. That's why the new mechanism interrupts the session after the
> session timeout, and opening a new one depends on sudo's mechanism for
> cached passwords.

That was the essence of my question.  What is stopping us from starting
a new session as needed instead of keeping one around forever ?



  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-21 14:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found]                     ` <87o9ajvost.fsf@gmx.de>
2018-11-20 14:13                       ` sudo:: method in tramp possible security issue João Távora
2018-11-20 21:14                         ` Paul Eggert
2018-11-20 21:18                           ` Stefan Monnier
2018-11-20 21:25                             ` Paul Eggert
2018-11-20 21:44                               ` Stefan Monnier
2018-11-20 22:06                               ` Michael Albinus
2018-11-20 22:27                                 ` João Távora
2018-11-20 23:12                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2018-11-21  7:41                                   ` Michael Albinus
2018-11-21 12:26                                     ` Michael Albinus
2018-11-21 12:44                                     ` Filipp Gunbin
2018-11-21 12:51                                       ` Michael Albinus
2018-11-21 14:44                                     ` John Shahid
2018-11-21 14:52                                       ` Michael Albinus
2018-11-21 14:55                                         ` John Shahid [this message]
2018-11-21 15:07                                           ` Michael Albinus
2018-11-20 22:16                           ` Michael Albinus
2018-11-20 22:30                         ` Michael Albinus
2018-11-20 22:54                           ` João Távora
2018-11-21  7:49                             ` Michael Albinus
     [not found]           ` <87ftvwyxh7.fsf@gmx.de>
2018-12-16 15:24             ` Tramp sudoedit method (was: sudo:: method in tramp possible security issue) Michael Albinus

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