From: Serghei Iakovlev <sadhooklay@gmail.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: bnf-mode
Date: Sun, 05 May 2019 18:01:52 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8736lt3py7.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv5zqq13bn.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sat, 04 May 2019 14:35:21 -0400")
I apologize for the possible duplication of this reply. I sent it by
mistake to my personal Stefan address.
Hello Stefan,
Thank you for the review. I've removed wrongly used (and documented)
`syntax-propertize-function' funcall. Thank you for clarifying it
out. As for the question: BNF is a notation technique for context
free grammars, often used to describe the syntax of languages used
in computing, such as programming languages, document formats,
instruction sets and communication protocols.
And I have to say than Bison is not BNF. Probable you're meant yacc,
which is from 197x. However BNF is designed (in 1959) to create
formal grammars in a formal language, what is not a subject area for
yacc or bison. Yes, yacc, antlr, bison, META II, etc. All they use
a dialect slightly reminiscent of BNF, but the do not use pure BNF
grammar. In addition, they don't use a formal language.
I've updated the code in the repository but still not sure what
exactly should I attach on this reply.
Best regards,
Serghei
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>> I created a major mode for editing BNF grammars [1] and would like to
>> add this package to the ELPA [2]. Currently it provides basic syntax
>> and font-locking for BNF files. BNF notation is supported exactly
>> form as it was first announced in the ALGOL 60 report. EBNF and ABNF
>> are not supported but in my plans for the near future.
>
> In what kind of circumstances would this be used?
> I've seen BNF-like syntax used by various tools (like bison and
> friends, for example), but never with this particular syntax.
>
> ;; Basically `syntax-propertize-function' is a construct which belongs
> ;; to `font-lock'.
>
> No. It's used by font-lock (as well as various other things), but it
> does not belong to it.
>
> ;; But correct indentation depends on
> ;; syntax properties of the text, and that should ideally be
> ;; independent of font-lock being activated or not.
>
> Which is why syntax-propertize was created (as opposed to the previous
> font-lock-syntactic-keywords, which *did* belong to font-lock and
> suffered from the problem you describe).
>
> ;; For `bnf-mode', this means that with `font-lock' disabled, we wont
> ;; have our syntax properties set correctly, and indentation will
> ;; suffer.
>
> That's not true.
>
> ;; To patch our way around this, we issue a `syntax-propertize' call
> ;; manually, `font-lock' enabled or not.
> (with-silent-modifications
> (when bnf-mode-algol-comments-style
> (funcall syntax-propertize-function (point-min) (point-max))))
>
> Don't do that: syntax-propertize-function will be called when needed
> (e.g. by indent-according-to-mode).
>
>
> Stefan
>
>
prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-05-05 15:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-05-04 15:51 [ELPA] New package: bnf-mode Serghei
2019-05-04 18:35 ` Stefan Monnier
[not found] ` <87h8a93qqu.fsf@gmail.com>
2019-05-05 14:49 ` Fwd: " Serghei Iakovlev
2019-05-05 14:56 ` Serghei Iakovlev
2019-05-05 16:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-05 22:31 ` John Yates
2019-05-06 0:47 ` Drew Adams
2019-05-06 0:48 ` Drew Adams
2019-05-06 5:54 ` Serghei Iakovlev
2019-05-06 12:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-06 18:57 ` Serghei Iakovlev
2019-05-07 0:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-07 17:36 ` Serghei Iakovlev
2019-05-07 17:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-07 18:54 ` Serghei Iakovlev
2019-05-07 19:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-09 4:06 ` Serghei Iakovlev
2019-05-05 15:01 ` Serghei Iakovlev [this message]
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