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[100.33.98.8]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 207sm13339072qkf.69.2020.03.24.04.38.24 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 24 Mar 2020 04:38:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Philippe Vaucher's message of "Tue, 24 Mar 2020 09:10:45 +0100") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::735 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:245755 Archived-At: > Just curious, can you elaborate why the ability to push gives you a tight > feedback loop? Notice how belabored the email-patch mechanism is for prospective contributors without push access. Nature of the beast I'm afraid... there's always at least one niggling fixup for the smallest patch submission, and for a 50-commit-behind-50-commit-ahead merge, there's going to be order of 10 fixups. The verbal back-and-forth required is prohibitively costly for a largely inactive repo like emacs-chess. The web-based "pull request" mechanism is much more sane than iterating emails as it's always clear which of the author's iterations is latest, but that's a separate issue.