From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via "Emacs development discussions." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "Why is emacs so square?" Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 06:14:34 +0200 Message-ID: <8736959yhh.fsf@ebih.ebihd> References: <8wXYP4GY9hwW-9mYv6_LGMETZ8Vz3Ob1Bec6yh6kPT7yxjTkxA3V6dXY4ELra9tYiJUxJmgXKSIEX4w8HFiPRoeGVSQHDSoBVy1voj1e3Qo=@protonmail.com> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="126852"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:rLvyOzTyK3iJ56ccmGJxZl7YP2Q= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 15 06:15:52 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jOZSp-000Wqc-M6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2020 06:15:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42672 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jOZSo-0005N1-Ow for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2020 00:15:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52041) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jOZRi-0004dk-Ko for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2020 00:14:44 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jOZRh-00011W-F0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2020 00:14:42 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([159.69.161.202]:44526) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jOZRh-00011D-97 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2020 00:14:41 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jOZRg-000VQp-1I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2020 06:14:40 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 159.69.161.202 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:246981 Archived-At: ndame wrote: > A user on reddit [...] https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/23vtvd/why_is_emacs_sosquare/ > It could improve the square apperance if, for example, > emacs provided some text properties to specify rounded > corners with custom radius for background colors. The thing is, you only care for decorations for a very short time. After that, you want it as to the point as possible. I'm not a GUI Emacs user, but I give you half right because last time I saw the default GUI Emacs on X it looked like a Windows 95 application. OTOH I'm unsure if Emacs does its own buttons. It does? Or do they conform to the underlying look and feel, in which case maybe one should configure the underlying OS (e.g., the window manager, graphical/widget toolkit, Xresources etc). My opinion is we should make Emacs look _so cool_, and then when people start using it they'll just remove everything (but continue to use Emacs). -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 https://dataswamp.org/~incal