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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:248798 Archived-At: Michael Albinus writes: Hi Stefan, >> If so indeed my approach won't work, but is there a good reason >> why the caller would want to do that instead of binding >> process-environment around the call to `start-file-process` >> (IOW, could we simply say that if the caller does that, they get what >> they deserve?). > > I'm mistaken. The packages use indeed process-environment for this setting. This gives me another idea: Tramp could adapt INSIDE_EMACS as provided by the packages via process-environment. Hmm, so simple - I should have thought about earlier. Pushed to master. >> Stefan Best regards, Michael.