From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Dark mode by default Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 16:36:45 +0200 Message-ID: <87363lwxoi.fsf@gnus.org> References: <20200913072108.GB14385@tuxteam.de> <835z8hdaa1.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33663"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: tomas@tuxteam.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 13 16:38:30 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kHT9C-0008gM-Ge for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 16:38:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34830 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kHT9B-0002RI-Io for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 10:38:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39920) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kHT7d-0000Ru-2w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 10:36:53 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:35710) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kHT7b-0006cS-HG; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 10:36:52 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=hnSOJSa1hi1NM/6WZqztpiuvxZHUzKRDPMaehVfV2kw=; b=Iorj4d77riKJemvYfmqok5ZA10 26N0lVdSG1aTFOkLn8F5xuf/ZXZC+YgYKBtYXdqOKuVIuS+DlF9yi5aYKtKL4I7NvoDX/70CGBmZu 8nMxSsp2qYEf4e9iim4BotLrurJRZd6Y7Pyw+If+EAcaAAHpuM5TfyLVUr0H7AM3akbE=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kHT7X-0003y4-11; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 16:36:49 +0200 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAJ1BMVEUIBgsjGBYwKy9I NzFZQy5iTjdjWEweGCAiGyNSTVBiXmBBPEH////RPbNfAAAAAWJLR0QMgbNRYwAAAAd0SU1FB+QJ DQ4IBHtRKoMAAAC6SURBVDjL5VKxEcIwDHSn2kwASpOjomADdmADep2bd5lLYzNC2ABKJsR2GUsN cDSo/Lf+X/k418Z7vzmeL6edd/82RPI1KSGTMnAYzFuhYCczKMpCSoAgc3RxWsPirvf947Ysh845 MD955KnXQmLWzQfmUcMlGES7ULuEAGTpsLaR03qlvkYqdC8FREA0C6lb0uO1KK1CqjZai81d3QDU lopzkVG8q4gWyf7bfjXlePUjujBHHrcfKL8AaZUtuvawg7kAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6Y3JlYXRlADIw MjAtMDktMTNUMTQ6MDg6MDQrMDA6MDDGn2uZAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOm1vZGlmeQAyMDIwLTA5LTEz VDE0OjA4OjA0KzAwOjAwt8LTJQAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: KiTsuNe and Brian the Fox's _The Future Eve_: "(untitled)" In-Reply-To: <835z8hdaa1.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 13 Sep 2020 17:24:54 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255494 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Anyway, I think we should stop the dispute about the colors. Color > preferences are deeply individual, and whatever we do, someone will > want to change the defaults. Well, the question here was what Emacs should do if the user has specified that they want an OS-level "dark theme". Emacs doesn't currently respect that choice, I think? (At least Emacs comes up, by default, with a white background here on a Debian/Gnome Shell platform, while everything else comes up with a dark background.) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no