From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 13:12:03 +0100 Message-ID: <873604ljho.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87o8iv3ac3.fsf@gnus.org> <56d1484e-6f41-575f-0fbb-fd2bd99ab152@yandex.ru> <87eejqnlxk.fsf@gnus.org> <3156f8b8-1db1-1858-95c3-16d213c2353a@yandex.ru> <87czz8n1gk.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27531"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 17 13:14:56 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kpsBM-0006xN-0v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 17 Dec 2020 13:14:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58116 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kpsBL-0006aY-0I for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 17 Dec 2020 07:14:55 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54280) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kps8j-0004l8-9y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Dec 2020 07:12:13 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:40854) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kps8h-0001jp-8y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Dec 2020 07:12:13 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Lckp9YBWMrpvfO3TsPRdWruV8Y9+xlT4ullom3qVY0A=; b=QbgWOomCUFBT2MB+Nkp7gocj3L yAfPt2yqWUJVdTN6ns+6egC7RR+xByLCR0XzT62Lf+JQ2m+jV2IhrgK6PvoFMfk4gNrbdu2a5n6BA Ngi6QN3GvWd39dJHi13ngrHTYGUZbly1mejHBQpw+/5uZ17q95xHW2ROMesYJoDtYEkE=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kps8b-0007i6-2g; Thu, 17 Dec 2020 13:12:07 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAALVBMVEUGBAMsJiNGPjdU UlFgX11vbWyRj4/19fXf3t7U09Khnp6xsK/Avr2Afn3///9bgKxQAAAAAWJLR0QOb70wTwAAAAd0 SU1FB+QMEQstJHwofxAAAAFsSURBVDjL1dK/TsJAHMDxOgiJE5hgYoiJ0RcQmhSFxcQWCHGAIG2V OEFB40x/BZ3pn40oaS9dHGhVXDDUEKmTqy/g44gaE7mrD8B3uvt9hrvhR1HR77a22WR0lU5+nak/ /d4j1EK0dMD+xLHzPw4p+iyEkKbuzMHKLRPLcGmapsIYjHJiNnN84UYIYHg2zlX4Ig5DHdnug4ZM EYMXgDbPngMEALL0QT4AbEuzp2VT3MdAEQCgNxZw8OXJDG5YwOFVVkFVmCoBfusOtFJcIEGmYyWq hu4/cLjc3Eikyy388ZDfcRrrRuq6SQBIb2tR1QuAJzRk9EYAdKtOs19RSUD9RMzeAwKuDLPLGwIJ ndx0Ah6QAAP0aORk8YyAdtYeqp08CXB5AqCYYhEDxUbI930goD2bvvu+ioPn8lKjIknuLgajwmnW ea57ozAOhxLvdOvjHg49vsBJR45TS83DsqLpmqVZloVt+8IU+Wf+CXy1nrsugxWNAAAAJXRFWHRk YXRlOmNyZWF0ZQAyMDIwLTEyLTE3VDExOjQ1OjM2KzAwOjAwnCbanwAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTptb2Rp ZnkAMjAyMC0xMi0xN1QxMTo0NTozNiswMDowMO17YiMAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Apoc Krysis's _Natural Sciences: Age in Decline_: "Target Spotted (prod. DeejayRust)" In-Reply-To: (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Thu, 17 Dec 2020 14:08:15 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:261102 Archived-At: Dmitry Gutov writes: > But... can it work well? Showing the toolbar in some modes yet hiding > it in others? Jumping window heights are a known source of annoyance. Yes. If we want to go in a toolbars-only-in-modes-where-it's-useful direction, we'll have to fix the height annoyance. Well, we should do that anyway... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no