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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:269120 Archived-At: >>>>> On Mon, 10 May 2021 10:40:20 -0400, Stefan Monnier said: Stefan> IIUC the difference (with the patch) is between stopping ssh vi= a `C-c` or Stefan> via `kill`. I wonder why this matters, and I think it's not at= all Stefan> obvious if an "abrupt" network disconnection would be more like= `C-c` or Stefan> more like `kill`. In the 'C-c' case Emacs has had a chance to clean up its internal state (with the patch applied). With 'kill' we=CA=BCre pulling the rug out from under GTK (see the backtrace several messages up-thread). Robert --=20