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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:276247 Archived-At: Juri Linkov writes: > But why not to unify them in another direction, i.e. not to use a list > for options in defvar-keymap. Then both syntaxes would be the same: [...] > (defvar-keymap eww-textarea-map > :full t > "g" #'eww-reload) The parenthesised version is more regular -- the keywords-at-the-start thing feels pretty hackish. (And means that eldoc doesn't give correct info.) But we do use the keyword-at-the-start approach in `define-derived-mode', for instance, so perhaps we could here, too. Putting keywords inside a () is pretty unusual syntax, anyway. So I'm open to unify them in this direction... Does eldoc have support for this kind of oddball syntax, by any chance? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no