From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: dick Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Please stop making extra unnecessary work for us all. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:276803 Archived-At: I've observed similar bristling over superfluous changes in the past. I can only assume the bristlers are of "a certain age" (which I am as well) who cut their teeth on CVS or RCS. It is a bad state of affairs when your development process cannot tolerate whitespace changes since at the core of every good developer is an insufferable grammarian who obsesses over straight lines and chamfered edges. Git is singularly designed to make these cosmetic changes non-events via switches like `git diff -b` and `git merge -X ours`. I've long grown accustomed to digging several levels to properly assign git-blame. Generally if the code in question is complicated enough, the person responsible is never the first name that shows up.