From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?Pierre_T=C3=A9choueyres?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Alternatives for reliable build environments for emacs? Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2021 22:37:22 +0200 Message-ID: <8735oksx6l.fsf@killashandra.ballybran.fr> References: <87bl39cnr4.fsf@tanaka.verona.se> <83zgqts28b.fsf@gnu.org> <871r45ciyp.fsf@tanaka.verona.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16129"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: joakim@verona.se Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 28 22:39:33 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mgCBR-00042T-Fp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 28 Oct 2021 22:39:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57856 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mgCBQ-0005e4-Eq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 28 Oct 2021 16:39:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57060) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mgC9h-0004G8-2y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Oct 2021 16:37:45 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr ([2a01:e0c:1:1599::14]:25566) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mgC9e-0006Ri-U2; Thu, 28 Oct 2021 16:37:44 -0400 Original-Received: from killashandra.ballybran.fr.free.fr (unknown [IPv6:2a01:e0a:1e2:f8b0:6e3d:5f8:9612:9a5e]) by smtp5-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DAD5A5FFA5; Thu, 28 Oct 2021 22:37:34 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <871r45ciyp.fsf@tanaka.verona.se> (joakim@verona.se's message of "Thu, 28 Oct 2021 16:38:54 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:e0c:1:1599::14; envelope-from=pierre.techoueyres@free.fr; helo=smtp5-g21.free.fr X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:278140 Archived-At: Le jeudi 28 oct. 2021 =C3=A0 16:38, joakim@verona.se a =C3=A9crit : > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >>> From: joakim@verona.se >>> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2021 14:55:27 +0200 >>>=20 >>> I'm finding it increasingly difficult to build emacs in my distro, >>> Fedora(Ok, I havent managed to build emacs using distro dependencies for >>> a long time) >> >> Why? what are the difficulties? > > In my case one of the problems that started the downward spiral was the v= ersions shipped of gnutls in > fedora which didnt work with emacs. > Could you elaborate on what's didn't work when you build Emacs with the library provided by the Fedora package manager, please ? For what it worth : Here I'm on Fedora 34, building Emacs regularly from GIT (branches 27/28/master) and everything is working as expected. I could update packages, use gnus with gmane, use elfeed etc. "Here it's work" =E2=84=A2 =C2=A9 Me :-) > The separate aproach of building all the dependencies emacs need in a > separate build environment does work, like the Guix aproach. > > I could probably convince guix to do what I want, but guix is also > fiddly. I was just wondering if somebody else had a solution for a > reproducible development environment for emacs. > > Maybe I'm the only one facing these difficulties, that's fine I guess.