From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tick Reduction Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2021 10:56:41 +0100 Message-ID: <8735nrqheu.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87bl2hyzca.fsf@gnus.org> <8735nszpdv.fsf@gnus.org> <87sfvswrp8.fsf@gnus.org> <87zgq0tu7z.fsf@gnus.org> <87r1bbrzd5.fsf@gnus.org> <83bl2ftd0d.fsf@gnu.org> <875ysnrxdd.fsf@gnus.org> <835ysntark.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1536"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: dgutov@yandex.ru, stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 20 10:57:52 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1moN82-0000Ee-Tv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 20 Nov 2021 10:57:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42880 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1moN81-00039q-TC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 20 Nov 2021 04:57:49 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47252) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1moN74-0001xP-EN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Nov 2021 04:56:50 -0500 Original-Received: from [2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2] (port=59848 helo=quimby.gnus.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1moN72-0002nK-3o; Sat, 20 Nov 2021 04:56:50 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=zQkJb2oGErdlVfTIyBSsE3e20RLskiRuXdl9OWryBX8=; b=YQqY+fil7KGW6amLSXMJ2l0EG2 3bwV30a1jTW3s2IBRJi8ZR6HLjN/dQSO7io05JQFbb7I4sE7fTqN5FV3E5okwmxPrq+kls/w8yZRx aAz1/eP+UAXE1D+oxakTJ8zuEYJ1WTvdvxpJr5Ek2m9xjDmci4mWp275G3KkgrhUhgw4=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1moN6w-00021T-C9; Sat, 20 Nov 2021 10:56:44 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAElBMVEXBt7+dl596dITs 5ec8NDr////Y6h9eAAAAAWJLR0QF+G/pxwAAAAd0SU1FB+ULFAk1NzerjX4AAAHASURBVDjLlZPb kcMgDEWFSQFIcQGLQgEkNLDR0H9NewU4j0l+Vh+g4aCH0TUFbQ+r3c3KHT61nR/nWiYwnFO76blO IKq9q/WeE0dqlROw21VVY9sN249QZaI4QA2sl9Y220xyJlrXa6zEXu6akdEaxUdpqu7XTbXYT6OX ZodP3kNsr+CwwJdG8glQiVn1A6AZ70K/pAJDzBdQycn3CJBvwEn4L/isMVqFdXpL4FV1jHEBPdok PL0+wU3j8wteI4rGR4kgc/IDdG7hiAg8k9FQje392SkmWCa4eWg8OmMWJ3TI7LJAYDlSjQA7ux6i dzX7BTgNkFb1IAtoPE3FRlfM8SJaSPNwVKCpOlTHwadOPK9gS3FIa4hhACTVHJQFSqaQIhpLAMRB 87wU0qifQDAoT8XLJHmZwPHKYbzzNMSlqWWK/g8skjnBS5ITWkgQXfTmUD8FAFyDhwIwLdm/7+69 /aZr2s3ypolpzgvAFxLbswiXbgfoTFu3m/S84wf1tzpACpjO+Wp0WjPH8/n+u/naxLg8wHjl+1hq liUSB36mpoarIUt5BwV/KrasuT+B+0t+VvQFyDoba38CaGpY6W/2B54YuyRir9yOAAAAJXRFWHRk YXRlOmNyZWF0ZQAyMDIxLTExLTIwVDA5OjUzOjU1KzAwOjAweiAVgQAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTptb2Rp ZnkAMjAyMS0xMS0yMFQwOTo1Mzo1NSswMDowMAt9rT0AAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Le Vingt's _Ashore_: "Cinquieme Du Mois D'Octobre" In-Reply-To: <835ysntark.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 20 Nov 2021 11:51:59 +0200") X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -35 X-Spam_score: -3.6 X-Spam_bar: --- X-Spam_report: (-3.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:279800 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> The x-height is literally the height of the lower-case x character. =F0= =9F=98=80 >> But it's used as a shorthand to say something about the characteristics >> of a font -- the x-height is what matters most for legibility, and the >> ascenders (in characters like "b") and descenders (in characters like >> "g") are separate things. > > We can easily get the info from the font. But how do you propose to > use that info? I'm not quite sure. But picking a variable-pitch font that has the same x-height as the monospace font we've picked might be nice. Of course, that has its drawbacks -- we don't want the total height to be taller, either. But perhaps it can go into the mix when searching for an appropriate font -- if we have several candidates with the correct total height, preferring the one(s) with the same x-height would be nice, I think? --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no