From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tick Reduction Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2021 19:25:38 +0100 Message-ID: <8735npmkm5.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87bl2hyzca.fsf@gnus.org> <8735nszpdv.fsf@gnus.org> <87sfvswrp8.fsf@gnus.org> <834k88woaj.fsf@gnu.org> <878rxkv980.fsf@gnus.org> <87sfvpmtl8.fsf@gnus.org> <83pmqtqvj5.fsf@gnu.org> <87bl2dmnfa.fsf@gnus.org> <83mtlxquh7.fsf@gnu.org> <877dd1mlsd.fsf@gnus.org> <83k0h1qss5.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39658"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 21 19:28:13 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1morZU-000A4C-Ep for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 21 Nov 2021 19:28:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43620 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1morZT-0004Kz-Gw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 21 Nov 2021 13:28:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:42654) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1morXA-0001e2-93 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Nov 2021 13:25:48 -0500 Original-Received: from [2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2] (port=45784 helo=quimby.gnus.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1morX8-00022L-Mf; Sun, 21 Nov 2021 13:25:48 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=aov3aAAmA0vh3/Dt/iicM+wMsbFI1eZlxnZQrx8s5oo=; b=pSk/rt28x9jrlmbmncqj8wfEGp DANNebrx8hDYCsY55jgbngLbQPvMg8qOvFNjGVHazEh69HW1H7/s07ugq6mN3mqYQ0kADpn9NoKTN eS0FV5Xpe1WwECYOigLXkG7ibgVqT51vDGjwfK0xxJoZdPFufYp8yOXWtmjPDoVUUrU4=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1morX2-00086D-5H; Sun, 21 Nov 2021 19:25:42 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAGFBMVEX+/OfJs5vCkmie UT0mERNgJSN0VUb///98IOfRAAAAAWJLR0QHFmGI6wAAAAd0SU1FB+ULFRIUDdX3atsAAAG4SURB VDjLbdNRcusgDAVQ+60gOBso0jT/RUNWgFdg6H+dNvtfwrsS4JC0zPSjPkZcyWSantfM01mIJE2v QI43ieUVHJGXUmL6BSKylVLyKyyM93UNMJ/wt6B8g5Pr1b1Cfb6VjAf91LdpnqlBzBMZzAvinP5R BynTzs4WYXFoIID7nXyDRegZ2hYP5FgrSQR8OXdU43aE7fAdluHs/DdEhd09QCuJHo1ZjaB9owz6 Th1queXdkmJSChbKe229Qz5gqUDveI75dvBErkJE/dLB2zQ0kre02wOWgB0sdVJ2ExR2a8x9sOys IB0C4qNUENkl/FiDFTBbjBtw3yR820Ry2+GIhVmuN5E8ABmcie8ijEjSwRsEudxwjGYd4YyD5RYC tzuFtSoE3G+8jlL5gFbqyhpApPwCQiz8KlYMqh5hpRa57hqAL4+0FRgQNNlaS+VhB04IBNi0jw7o WuyGXhNGFR99II4BxXSEOiAg22Vow2alIIgVi33aktdhhy793HYXVr1XuDTUn2N96i1MBqIfTl8s a+r9lQb1KqP05wjcIKcKmiqPkAZYFaj+Kuzf3kfBSBqkJ1jz+h9Ajeeus5t/rAAAACV0RVh0ZGF0 ZTpjcmVhdGUAMjAyMS0xMS0yMVQxODoyMDoxMyswMDowMLFHKaMAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5 ADIwMjEtMTEtMjFUMTg6MjA6MTMrMDA6MDDAGpEfAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Four Tet's _Pause_: "Glue Of The World" In-Reply-To: <83k0h1qss5.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 21 Nov 2021 20:15:38 +0200") X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -35 X-Spam_score: -3.6 X-Spam_bar: --- X-Spam_report: (-3.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:279870 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Sorry, I'm now confused. You say the width of "L" will not be changed > and the width of digits doesn't need to be changed? Then why are we > doing all this, if there will be no change? The column/line specs use spaces to fill out (I think it defaults to three char positions for the L spec?), and it's really only these that will be affected by the monospaciation (in that spec). > (And btw, displaying "L" normally while "1234" not normally is quite a > lot more difficult than handling all characters the same, because the > display code generally doesn't distinguish between characters. Unless > you make "L" that "default character" whose advance width is used for > all the other characters, that is. But if you do that, then what > about "C" in the column number?) The L won't be displayed normally either, but like the numbers, the L won't be affected, because it's also as wide or wider than the "normal font width" (i.e., font->average_width). >> First line without monospacification, second line with: > > For the "U:---" part, each dash character is a separate field, so what > are the benefits of using proportional fonts there? Because mixing fonts here makes things look weird. > For the line/column number, I don't see any significant difference, > barely a pixel here and there. So I wonder what is this all about. With this font (as with most fonts), the displays of the line/column numbers should be identical. (Except for the spaces.) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no