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From: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
To: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: larsi@gnus.org,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: GStreamer xwidget
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2021 12:41:14 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8735noajkl.fsf@yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1mp0z4-0002jJ-OB@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Sun, 21 Nov 2021 23:31:14 -0500")

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

> Because I know nothing about GStreamer except what I've seen in these
> messages, I can't be sure of the implications of these facts.  I don't
> have enough context to fit them into.

Thanks, please see below.

> That suggests the feature might be ok -- but verifying that calls
> for some more discussion.
>
>                 as it doesn't depend on gst-plugins-ugly or gst-plugins-bad.

> You have mentioned gst-plugins-good, gst-plugins-ugly and
> gst-plugins-bad.  Can you tell me how they relate to GStreamer itself?

They are plugins maintained by the GStreamer developers, but are
separate from GStreamer itself.

> How does GStreamer interact with them?  Are they linked it by ld?
> Is it static linking?

They're not statically linked by GStreamer.  Instead, GStreamer will
dynamically link them depending on what the application requests.

> Does the choice of one of those inevitably have to be made when
> building Emacs?

No, see below.

> Does GStreamer ever use some sort of dynamic linking to select one of
> them?

GStreamer does, but it will not load any plugin Emacs doesn't ask it to.

> They say "plugins", not "plugin".  Is  there a separate plugin for each
> media format?

Yes, that is true.

> If so, does selecting gst-plugins-good statically link _all_ of the
> free plugins?  If not that, then what?

Asking for gst-plugins-base and gst-plugins-good will result in
GStreamer dynamically linking with the free plugins.  As long as Emacs C
code doesn't explictly tell GStreamer to load the ugly or bad plugins,
which are non-free, GStreamer will never load them.

The ugly and bad plugins are not installed with a default GStreamer
distribution either.  AFAIU, most GNU distributions do not have them in
their main package repositories either.



  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-22  4:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <87ee7cq2mu.fsf.ref@yahoo.com>
2021-11-19  2:51 ` GStreamer xwidget Po Lu
2021-11-19  4:01   ` T.V Raman
2021-11-19  4:21     ` Po Lu
2021-11-19  5:38   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-19  5:49     ` Po Lu
2021-11-19  6:19       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-19  6:37         ` Po Lu
2021-11-19  6:53           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-19 13:03           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-19 13:07             ` Po Lu
2021-11-19 13:22               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-19 13:33                 ` Po Lu
2021-11-19 13:45                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-20  5:07   ` Po Lu
2021-11-20  7:23     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-20  7:27       ` Po Lu
2021-11-21  5:19     ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-21  6:53       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-22  4:31         ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-20  7:42   ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-20  8:05     ` Po Lu
2021-11-20  8:16       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-21  5:18         ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-21  5:27           ` Po Lu
2021-11-22  4:31             ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-22  4:41               ` Po Lu [this message]
2021-11-23  6:11                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-23  7:07                   ` Po Lu
2021-11-23 20:54                     ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-24  0:32                       ` Po Lu
2021-11-25  5:32                         ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-25  8:13                           ` Po Lu
2021-11-25 11:34                             ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-11-27  4:09                               ` Richard Stallman
2021-12-01 12:30                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-01 17:53                                   ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-02  0:51                                     ` Po Lu
2021-12-02  2:47                                     ` chad
2021-11-27  4:08                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-27  4:38                               ` Po Lu
2021-11-28  4:24                                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-28  4:42                                   ` Po Lu
2021-11-28  8:04                                     ` Yuri Khan
2021-11-28  8:16                                       ` Po Lu
2021-11-29  3:02                                       ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-29  7:31                                         ` Yuri Khan
2021-11-29  7:44                                           ` Po Lu
2021-11-29 21:12                                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-30  1:38                                               ` Po Lu
2021-11-30  8:30                                                 ` Yasushi SHOJI
2021-11-30  9:29                                                   ` Po Lu
2021-11-30 10:30                                                     ` Yasushi SHOJI
2021-12-01  7:04                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-12-01  7:09                                                   ` Po Lu
2021-11-30  4:09                                           ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-29  3:01                                     ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-29  3:12                                       ` Po Lu
2021-11-30  4:09                                         ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-30  4:36                                           ` Po Lu
2021-12-01  7:04                                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-23  6:11                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-23  6:55                   ` Po Lu
2021-11-24  4:28                     ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-21  6:52           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-21 14:45             ` Arthur Miller
2021-11-23  6:09               ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-22  4:31             ` Richard Stallman
2021-12-01  7:07       ` Richard Stallman
2021-12-01  7:31         ` Po Lu
2021-12-01  8:30         ` Alexandre Garreau

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