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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:280516 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > It might also be called by redisplay, That is what I'm worried about, thanks. > ... it makes very little sense to me to introduce such a feature only > for the sake of pixel-wise scrolling. We should allow such a mode > with all the Emacs commands, not just in pixel-wise scrolling. And > anyway, Emacs might call scrolling commands as part of other commands, > not just because the user types C-v. Makes sense, I will work on it.