From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Convert README.org to plain text README while installing package Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2022 13:29:28 +0200 Message-ID: <8735gj5ox3.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87leuca7v7.fsf@disroot.org> <87czfopmsd.fsf@gnu.org> <87h74ztshe.fsf@gmx.de> <871qw31ois.fsf@yahoo.com> <8735gj4ceo.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20416"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Po Lu , Michael Albinus , Alan Mackenzie , Stefan Kangas , Akib Azmain Turja , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tassilo Horn Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 05 13:37:57 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nxoZx-00057r-M9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 05 Jun 2022 13:37:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49182 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nxoZw-0003XM-8l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 05 Jun 2022 07:37:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39466) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nxoS9-0001gg-5L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jun 2022 07:29:55 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:45638) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nxoS7-0000rG-4g; Sun, 05 Jun 2022 07:29:52 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=X1N36o0jINhgdJzvu5nyeZkEoKCsNFRgXdCZynqvpvw=; b=PbV5v9YQYw/D1sySg8lCrblOIY aqvQHaKNnA5whFH7ELCDvyFiEt+0ON07CGrQhbI/lnYSoqxIEFN0YntMO4OdoTYYPY27zUccqavfP jffzbC5D7XKTjez0KNll+ujyGsTVKICxgEjDJKZ5ckdweC8BPjOdYnAGrLEKHl1QFTvc=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nxoRl-000876-DN; Sun, 05 Jun 2022 13:29:32 +0200 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAElBMVEUnGhpXQkGdhmbB u6Hx9Ov///+oZSgJAAAAAWJLR0QF+G/pxwAAAAd0SU1FB+YGBQsYOWUcqB0AAAGfSURBVDjLbZOL kQMhCIYl1wCwV0CEKyARG8hq/zUd7NNswow7s3wCgr8puRHehLLUJ6lJ7dZMMCHcspm2qRSzUmtX s94M0x1IrIlKztLn3ptY9e89YUq39iTmTMXEXe52u0cJsAcqU2R31wEodqMSWx/MAQIA4URaroDc kEnn+g6AmcnDpF8iNgP233aAxwnIe+PxVAeYZmINEK2M4OdJJP1Py+t3AAB489NNTUWy9jpGBOBC nPNkigdIBNFQJkzERGmIWADFVnfjWYNWS++GHpE/ASClrxEOcAN4SQUBfM74AZbd42nWDg7wnmor G6mGiN1LIkIEJwDO7HMj9hWtnBHsshRzFYrmcUi0ekOXHpvPHoEtNOmMgLVkn+UONIDrWIQjYd7r b2BhS6m9l8i1i8bDIhdtjaidemolDx3qqOcmeypvWuv+LsJsre/SENGldB1JaMbf4OqoVpsvi8fZ bEhy2iNdPW1Z9fUVuM2p27dMDto7qEfE99oOpKzggl9++xoTmZdRtn0ADZfxug4yiI8s+0er38wx yVFLstzuPw56lU3Ys32mAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOmNyZWF0ZQAyMDIyLTA2LTA1VDExOjI0OjU2KzAw OjAw/2djYQAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTptb2RpZnkAMjAyMi0wNi0wNVQxMToyNDo1NiswMDowMI46290A AAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Hood's _You Show No Emotion At All_: "Across The Lonely Writing Side" In-Reply-To: <8735gj4ceo.fsf@gnu.org> (Tassilo Horn's message of "Sun, 05 Jun 2022 12:26:44 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:290694 Archived-At: Tassilo Horn writes: > So the choice of format is natural for package authors. And they > frequently contain markup like headings, bullet lists, bold, italics, > and code snippets which simply look much better than their text-only > alternative (even in their editing/non-rendered versions). I think most of the hostility non-Org users have towards Org files is the experience of opening one, only seeing a couple of lines with "..." after them and then going "AAARGH", killing the buffer, and using `find-file-literally' on it. But Org files are totally innocuous if you say `M-x org-show-subtree'. package.el could totally use org files instead of text files for the readmes if it ran `org-show-subtree' when displaying the Org readmes -- most people wouldn't even notice that they were reading an Org file (beyond the nice fontification). -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no