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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:290821 Archived-At: > Sorry, I had forgotten that handa-san had advised me to add functions > and commands separately and avoid making backward incompatible changes. > > I will make another patch later. Sorry for sending several emails. I was going to go into the implementation, but I am beginning to feel that it is inconsistent that the default behavior has changed, but the behavior of commands and functions has remained the same. For example, if the batch-skkdic-convert-without-reduction command is added separately, users who dare to regenerate a Japanese dictionary with a reduced vocabulary will execute batch-skkdic-convert. It is disconcerting that a command that we can assume is used by default behaves the same as commands in the past. I would like to get other people's opinions on whether I should do that, since it has the side effect of making the code less maintainable. -- Taiju