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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:294733 Archived-At: >>>>> On Mon, 05 Sep 2022 00:04:46 -0400, Richard Stallman said: >> > We've transformed virtually all prompts like this to use >> > `format-prompt', so it's just something people that read >> > code like this have to get used to. >> Wow. The logic of that... Richard> There is no rational argument there, only emotion. Richard> To contribute to useful discussion of what to do, Richard> what we need are rational arguments. Like Lars said: using `format-prompt' allows people to adjust the appearance of prompts according to their preferences. People who write code for emacs need to know what its various functions do, and the job `format-prompt' does is not particularly hard to remember. Robert --