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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:299425 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> I have made :lisp-dir a general property of a package description. This >> might be set in package-vc when generating the -pkg.el, but in >> principle any (non-vc) package could make use of this to indicate a >> subdirectory where lisp files are stored. For now this is something >> that will probably only interest package-vc. > > Hmm... but if a package does that in an ELPA archive (i.e. the > `:lisp-dir` thingy appears in the `archive-contents`), then this package > will not be installed correctly when installed with an older > Emacs, right? > > IOW, it's an extension of the ELPA protocol. Strictly speaking yes, but without any specification it is hard to say. All this is intended as is an extra field that is stored in a package description file. Do you have any other suggestion that could be implemented to solve the immediate problem that package-vc has (lisp files are located in some sub-directory and we want to avoid loading package-vc during initialisation). > I do think it's getting time to update the protocol based on the > experience gained over the last 10 years, but I'm really not convinced > `:lisp-dir` is a good addition. > > E.g. a thing I'd find more interesting would be to let the tarball provide > its own -autoloads.el (which is in charge of adding whichever > lisp-dirs it wants). That sounds like a better idea.