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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:306086 Archived-At: Adam Porter writes: > Then shouldn't we rename Emacs? Its name is a historical accident, but if it were possible, then yes. Unfortunately, `Editor' is already taken.