From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Danny Freeman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New Package for NonGNU-ELPA: clojure-ts-mode Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2023 09:02:20 -0400 Message-ID: <87350ndquw.fsf@dfreeman.email> References: <87il9kksqz.fsf@dfreeman.email> <87a5uw9ivs.fsf@posteo.net> <87ttt42gna.fsf@dfreeman.email> <87wmy080kn.fsf@posteo.net> <83v8djcydl.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23849"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Philip Kaludercic , danny@dfreeman.email, emacs-devel@gnu.org, manuel.uberti@inventati.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 13 15:18:07 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qVAys-0005yt-Fx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2023 15:18:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qVAxw-0003iJ-W5; Sun, 13 Aug 2023 09:17:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qVAxu-0003iB-JC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2023 09:17:07 -0400 Original-Received: from out-76.mta1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:203:375::4c]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qVAxp-0006Gt-U9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2023 09:17:06 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dfreeman.email; s=key1; t=1691932619; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=4czFU6KoJCN6JgdPjroJij1e3oa+1y3LbMVSiT0PwqA=; b=tyreyJJu7trx40uKMNz7rrCY8AGCso35lCOiODsgc3uICtGdqCi7mV/cDR20yooUJRHnTM hJ9+9HIWdKtNxwEY24B3BkRQbjtfBB+xmRCkasRxzQfhlmq/VP9dEDZRDeE8DDvmIuzCs5 6wmarfPlJLaU0WHI1B8WCrTWladd6Iw= X-Report-Abuse: Please report any abuse attempt to abuse@migadu.com and include these headers. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:308674 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Philip Kaludercic >> Cc: emacs-devel , Manuel Uberti >> >> Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2023 20:31:20 +0000 >> >> Danny Freeman writes: >> >> > Not all of the maintainers of clojure-mode and clojure-ts-mode are on >> > board with the core development model, particularly copyright >> > assignment. Initially I wanted to put this straight in the core but >> > after some discussion we decided not to. I have personally done my >> > copyright assignment, but for clojure-ts-mode we won't be asking >> > contributors for it. Therefore, going into GNU ELPA or core then is out >> > of the question. >> >> That is a pity. IIRC there is a SLIME-like environment for Clojure, >> right? I don't know if Emacs is also the conventional default >> environment for working with the language, but if it is, it seems like >> it would be a nice thing to have at least some basic support in the core >> :/ > > I agree. Perhaps the contributions to clojure-ts-mode could be > re-assessed: those that are small don't need copyright assignments. I don't think it's going to be possible. Primary contributors do no want to put this in core and do not want to require copyright assignment to contribute to clojure-ts-mode. Clojure-mode and cider were never moved to the core for the same reason. I have already had this conversation with them a number of times but was unable to make a convincing argument. And I am inclined to agree that keeping clojure-ts-mode under the same development model as the rest of the clojure emacs packages is the best path forward right now. I do understand where yall are coming from in desiring to have clojure-ts-mode in the core. Again, I advocated for doing this for a while, but that's not the consensus among clojure emacs devs. Thank you, -- Danny Freeman