From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Permanently fix org versioning breakage during builds? Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2023 14:51:48 +0000 Message-ID: <8734vr4prv.fsf@localhost> References: <25989.50971.995591.385250@google.com> <87a5q0dc9m.fsf@localhost> <87y1djc1c9.fsf@localhost> <87zfxzdbna.fsf@yahoo.com> <87plyv7oii.fsf@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29828"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Po Lu , "T.V Raman" , =?utf-8?B?Sm/Do28gVMOhdm9yYQ==?= , emacs-devel To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 24 15:49:00 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rHPmk-0007WR-9L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 15:48:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rHPmS-0001VL-Td; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 09:48:40 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rHPmR-0001Uu-Pp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 09:48:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rHPmP-0006zB-Sm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 09:48:39 -0500 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F166F240029 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 15:48:35 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1703429316; bh=72YsGEqiQL4+O+8jY1Y1ljINGJPiNfEGUzupABw3ghk=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:From; b=gRZgLl0K2foknvlUXp8rm9LtgS5P8V/W2O4Mv+YA65xJ7fLex+k/nfoRaIOfctNyJ hTxsXHmW2qk1JT37f0W0oyBgK0vpGSfaWHp2Nk6mrKm5207SjzeHALoAGuKiUyTD+a 4EVooo/WjsubS6x3BCegP1BOnnP16XmmVJ/uE4G3D1tLYtyqdkHZ26aeWdMytYON/0 1S9tmYB7+4tvgrSixASG4MMVjrI5GvvGuLwALgF4/FYIdFUgjCt+eeveibRz6zOG/Q BNWiisZZ74FvjmwWCqxWL15g3gJrAcykNabSO0qjY5KJcSNMkAH1q83Zxds5jcjnZD cmGtsGfnlKF5Q== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4SykS33ZvCz9rxB; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 15:48:35 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -53 X-Spam_score: -5.4 X-Spam_bar: ----- X-Spam_report: (-5.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:314130 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas writes: >> Tentatively, it may even be done without affecting version check for >> out-of-tree builds. See the attached patch. > > Could you explain the benefit of doing that? Is the problem simply that > some users building from emacs.git don't want to say "make bootstrap", > or is it something else? AFAIU, yes - some users do not want to do make bootstrap and do not like that Org mode complains about mixed versions of .elc files. > What will be the consequences for everyone else, if we were to install > the proposed change? Org mode may break in unexpected ways due to stale .elc that did not update their macro expansions. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at