From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: jami-bot and org-jami-bot Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2024 11:43:48 +0000 Message-ID: <8734v0ta17.fsf@localhost> References: <875y0i7e43.fsf@hoowl.se> <87y1cyqoso.fsf@posteo.net> <87bk9op5ya.fsf@dataswamp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21942"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Emanuel Berg Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 14 12:41:30 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rOyrp-0005Xk-M5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 14 Jan 2024 12:41:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rOyr6-0007Sq-Jf; Sun, 14 Jan 2024 06:40:44 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rOyr5-0007Si-IO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jan 2024 06:40:43 -0500 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rOyr2-0007Hs-WA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jan 2024 06:40:43 -0500 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21F78240103 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2024 12:40:36 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1705232437; bh=MGv1KCXxgkV4p24qeeJfoLRzMCw61qbrNoCMqjuF+Ao=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:From; b=mnGAOvfTsoT4vVJZAPXqrKOGn3wtFpe3Dj2alPuOpGgUw1exsRGWpNI2REJu/pdhV YMAT54rr0hFmQnapkvCVwQ0hPiBIrLiGT0Md1chouP/2YzQC1AB8C+2tf2IpF5116Q OczM/hYTYsyYh3KECCORRbYriV4chpclxy/D9hLy0pOjD+APAVi4UugxkEHjSCtDWg tmEwfIuUuM7lBPF2zjXWOeLLipPc3rQd/KUraA/xXeqP3WVA/H8lLV23+HWrQU7bY6 0cnG/NsGHFe/Y7kWiVIHjfAR2FuntH46OcVMOcUXMl94ooVc/JIkNq6r4hVpgT4gvw lB7VsA8BRPDCw== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4TCYHR6jZKz9rxL; Sun, 14 Jan 2024 12:40:35 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <87bk9op5ya.fsf@dataswamp.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:314960 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg writes: > 1) The Org people should re-write everything useful they have > so that is available to us without Org; > > 2) after that, hey, why do we even need Org for? This sounds like reductio ad absurdum. Nobody is suggesting to "re-write everything useful". What is being suggested is to re-write parts that can be useful in more general scope than just Org mode. Such parts are not "everything". Far from it. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at