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From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org,  emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark?
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2024 09:46:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8734io3xyo.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zfkx1fha.fsf@localhost> (Ihor Radchenko's message of "Sun, 15 Dec 2024 09:07:45 +0000")

>>> 1. List of possible actions: ((name1 . action1 props) (name2 . action2 ...) ...)
>>>    PROPS is a plist defining extra properties like key-binding, display
>>>    string, maybe something else to be used in the future.
>>> 2. Menu interface to use (transient, context-menu, embark, which-key)
>>
>> This looks like the best design.  Any part of the org buffer could have
>> text properties with a list of its available actions.  Such a property
>> could be similar to 'context-menu-functions' handled by 'context-menu-map'.
>> But since it will be a plain generic list, it could be transformed to any
>> menu interface such as transient, context-menu, etc.
>
> I am a bit lost.
> Maybe I did not describe the use cases I had in mind well.
>
> What I have in mind is a menu UI for various commands:
> 1. org-open-at-point (one set of actions)
> 2. org-ctrl-c-ctrl-c (another set of action)
> 3. some other command
> 4. ...
>
> Then, "actions" will be various options a given command can do.
>
> In such scenario, the usefulness of text properties is elusive to me.
> I'd rather link the menu items to a command, not to place in buffer.

Indeed, in this case text properties are not needed.
Then you can use something like the buffer-local variable with the
same name 'context-menu-functions' (handled in 'context-menu-map').
The main point is that these functions return a menu.

But instead of a menu, an org function could return
a more high-level data structure like
((name1 . action1 props) (name2 . action2 ...) ...)

IOW, this means adding an abstraction layer on top of the existing
user interfaces such as transient and context-menu.

>> To transform it to context-menu, org-mode should provide a function
>> like 'context-menu-minor' that will create a corresponding menu
>> that will be added as a submenu of the default context menu.
>>
>> Such integration with existing menus would be better than the current
>> implementation of context menus in org-mouse-context-menu that completely
>> replaces the context menu with its own.
>
> What do you mean by "default context menu"?

The default context menu is the menu constructed from many different
context-menu functions.  Some of them add Undo/Redo entries,
some add Select/Copy/Paste, some add Global submenus, etc.

I meant to keep all these existing menu items, and also append
the submenu items returned by Org-mode.



  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-16  7:46 UTC|newest]

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2024-12-13 18:41                                         ` [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? (was: Fwd: Org-cite: Replace basic follow-processor with transient menu?) Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-13 22:09                                           ` [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? Gabriel Santos
2024-12-14  9:57                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-14 10:59                                               ` Gabriel Santos
2024-12-14 13:10                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-13 22:57                                           ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-14  9:59                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-14 14:30                                               ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-14  1:16                                           ` [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? (was: Fwd: Org-cite: Replace basic follow-processor with transient menu?) Panayotis Manganaris
2024-12-14 10:08                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-15 21:20                                               ` Samuel Wales
2024-12-16 17:54                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-17  2:08                                                   ` Samuel Wales
2024-12-17  2:24                                                     ` Samuel Wales
2024-12-17 18:04                                                     ` Transient: accessibility problems for users who need to use large fonts (was: [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? (was: Fwd: Org-cite: Replace basic follow-processor with transient menu?)) Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-18  7:19                                                       ` Samuel Wales
2024-12-18 10:52                                                         ` Jonas Bernoulli
2024-12-18 10:47                                                     ` [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? (was: Fwd: Org-cite: Replace basic follow-processor with transient menu?) Jonas Bernoulli
2024-12-14 10:50                                           ` [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? indieterminacy
2024-12-14 17:53                                           ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-15  9:07                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-16  7:46                                               ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2024-12-16 18:06                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-15 18:23                                           ` Kierin Bell
2024-12-17 17:23                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-14  0:37 [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? (was: Fwd: Org-cite: Replace basic follow-processor with transient menu?) Psionic K
2024-12-14  9:48 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-14 10:12   ` [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? Philip Kaludercic

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