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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:327184 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > Not sure whether this has been mentioned: there is a "treesit-auto"[1] > > addon on melpa that can detect missing treesitter grammars and handle > > their installation automatically. It would be great if something > > similar can be integrated into core, and if possible, grammar version > > handling and compatibility with distribution supplied grammar would be > > good to have. > > If we add something like this to Emacs, there is an issue we need to > take care about: to make carefully sure that it does not install > any nonfree grammars. I don't know how those grammars are released, > ir by whom, or how much they care about free software. We can't > take for granted that they do. > > Perhaps we could check automatically that the grammar found is properly > licenses, and disregard any grammars that are not free. > > By contrast, if grammars are going to be packaged and released for > distros, and chosen for installation by users, then it is the user's > responsibility, not Emacs's responsibility, to reject the nonfree ones > (and the GNU/Linux distro might insist on that). It might take a while for that to happen, which is why I still believe it would be better if tree-sitter major modes would populate `treesit-language-source-alist' on their own, and point to the specific checkouts that the major mode developer tested their implementation against. That way users are assured that when using the command `treesit-install-language-grammar', that their grammar is both stable and free.