From: Suhail Singh <suhailsingh247@gmail.com>
To: "Björn Bidar" <bjorn.bidar@thaodan.de>
Cc: Suhail Singh <suhailsingh247@gmail.com>,
Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Improve access to documentation in Info format
Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2025 20:28:21 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8734hzs6yy.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <67788718.170a0220.116636.4451SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com> ("Björn Bidar"'s message of "Sat, 04 Jan 2025 02:55:51 +0200")
Björn Bidar <bjorn.bidar@thaodan.de> writes:
> If we want to improve info in general, Emacs package.el repositories are
> not the best option.
> It should be easy to package the missing manuals for the major package
> formats and possibly provide packages for other distribution which don't
> include the manuals. The last option would be to provide download
> options for the info files.
While you provide other options, it's not clear why ELPA repositories
aren't a good fit. ELPA repositories are platform-agnostic and would
provide access to Info manuals wherever Emacs runs. Additionally, Emacs
provides one of the better Info readers, and implicit in the fact that
we are discussing this on emacs-devel is the assumption that the
intended users are Emacs users.
Improving the existing package definitions in the "major package
formats", though helpful, is orthogonal in my opinion. Providing access
to Info manuals via ELPA repositories in no way prevents these efforts.
However, emacs-devel may not be the best place to discuss such efforts.
> Fixing the license of the manuals would also go a long way of including
> these manuals. Trying to use the resources of the FSF to reach out and
> try to rectify such long standing issues would help very much.
> Such things are not possible for individual contributors I'd say.
Do you have examples of manuals whose existing license constraints would
hinder their inclusion in NonGNU ELPA?
>> Are there reasons why NonGNU ELPA wouldn't be a good place to host such
>> Info manuals?
>>
>>> b. Write software to find the desired manual, fetch it, and install it
>>> on your computer.
>>
>> If the Info manuals were hosted on NonGNU ELPA, then package.el already
>> provides this.
>>
>
> Emacs specific.
Emacs specific is okay.
--
Suhail
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Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-30 12:56 Proposal: Include C Manual from RMS in Emacs git, and/or release Jeremy Bryant
2024-11-30 13:25 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-11-30 13:38 ` Arsen Arsenović
2024-11-30 14:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-30 18:08 ` Arsen Arsenović
2024-11-30 20:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-30 21:09 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-12-01 6:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-02 3:00 ` Texinfo reputation (was: Re: [External] : Re: Proposal: Include C Manual from RMS in Emacs git, and/or release) Max Nikulin
2024-12-02 12:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-03 2:51 ` Texinfo reputation Max Nikulin
2024-12-03 12:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-03 18:51 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-12-05 4:56 ` Max Nikulin
2024-12-05 7:45 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-12-06 4:47 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-01 9:53 ` Proposal: Include C Manual from RMS in Emacs git, and/or release Arsen Arsenović
2024-12-01 10:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-01 10:54 ` Arsen Arsenović
2024-12-01 13:04 ` Johan Myréen
2024-12-04 6:09 ` Richard Stallman
2024-11-30 13:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-01 4:02 ` Sean Whitton
2024-12-01 7:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-01 8:36 ` Sean Whitton
2024-12-01 10:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-01 11:13 ` Sean Whitton
2024-12-05 5:05 ` Making the GNU C Manual easier to find in Info Richard Stallman
2024-12-05 6:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-05 7:25 ` Integration of Info manuals in programming modes; was: " Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-12-05 7:46 ` Integration of Info manuals in programming modes Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-05 8:52 ` Visuwesh
2024-12-05 9:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-05 9:49 ` Visuwesh
2024-12-05 11:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-05 11:28 ` Visuwesh
2024-12-05 12:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-05 12:39 ` Visuwesh
2024-12-05 14:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-15 8:26 ` Visuwesh
2024-12-08 8:13 ` Integration of Info manuals in programming modes, " James Thomas
2024-12-08 8:38 ` James Thomas
2024-12-08 11:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-08 20:10 ` Björn Bidar
[not found] ` <87zfl60wbw.fsf@>
2024-12-08 20:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-11 4:32 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-13 23:54 ` Björn Bidar
[not found] ` <87msgzp2a9.fsf@>
2024-12-14 19:11 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-12-16 4:02 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <86msh5b48w.fsf@gmx.net>
2024-12-10 1:08 ` James Thomas
2024-12-05 10:06 ` Stephen Berman
2024-12-05 15:07 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-12-05 16:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-09 4:58 ` Integration of Info manuals in programming modes; was: Making the GNU C Manual easier to find in Info Richard Stallman
2024-12-09 22:49 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-12-11 4:35 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-02 4:10 ` Proposal: Include C Manual from RMS in Emacs git, and/or release Richard Stallman
2024-12-02 12:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-03 23:03 ` [ELPA] New package c-intro-and-ref -- was " Jeremy Bryant
2024-12-04 12:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-04 22:58 ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-12-05 5:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-07 13:30 ` Improving info-look.el for (c) -was- " Jeremy Bryant
2024-12-07 15:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-05 5:03 ` Max Nikulin
2024-12-05 18:47 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-05 19:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-06 10:44 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-06 12:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-06 22:40 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-05 19:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-12-05 20:35 ` chad
2024-12-06 4:57 ` Visuwesh
2024-12-06 10:42 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-06 14:58 ` Max Nikulin
2024-12-06 16:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-08 16:41 ` Max Nikulin
2024-12-08 5:15 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-08 7:15 ` Xiyue Deng
2024-12-08 16:50 ` Max Nikulin
2024-12-11 4:32 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-12 3:22 ` Debian package with GNU manuals (was: Re: [ELPA] New package c-intro-and-ref) Max Nikulin
2024-12-04 20:02 ` [ELPA] New package c-intro-and-ref -- was Re: Proposal: Include C Manual from RMS in Emacs git, and/or release Suhail Singh
[not found] ` <87wmgf9h70.fsf@jeremybryant.net>
2024-12-04 23:52 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-07 13:21 ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-12-08 20:44 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-07 4:22 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-07 12:29 ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-12-07 14:55 ` Björn Bidar
[not found] ` <87h67fr18v.fsf@>
2024-12-10 5:38 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-13 23:44 ` Björn Bidar
[not found] ` <87r06bp2qm.fsf@>
2024-12-14 21:19 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-12-15 6:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-16 4:02 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-05 5:05 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-05 6:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-03 20:07 ` Björn Bidar
[not found] ` <87cyi8h6n8.fsf@>
2024-12-07 16:02 ` Björn Bidar
2024-12-08 5:10 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-08 20:07 ` Björn Bidar
2024-12-09 15:11 ` Improve access to documentation in Info format (was: Proposal: Include C Manual from RMS in Emacs git, and/or release) Suhail Singh
2024-12-11 4:37 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-11 14:13 ` Improve access to documentation in Info format Suhail Singh
2025-01-01 4:08 ` Richard Stallman
2025-01-01 21:04 ` Suhail Singh
2025-01-03 4:32 ` Richard Stallman
2025-01-03 5:27 ` Suhail Singh
2025-01-04 0:55 ` Björn Bidar
[not found] ` <67788718.170a0220.116636.4451SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2025-01-04 1:28 ` Suhail Singh [this message]
2025-01-04 2:20 ` Björn Bidar
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2025-01-04 2:57 ` Suhail Singh
2025-01-05 4:16 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-13 23:41 ` Björn Bidar
[not found] ` <87v7vnp2vx.fsf@>
2024-12-14 21:16 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-12-16 4:03 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-16 4:03 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <874j3e2b2i.fsf@>
2024-12-11 4:32 ` Proposal: Include C Manual from RMS in Emacs git, and/or release Richard Stallman
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