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From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
Cc: stephen@xemacs.org, David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: May I publish a Windows Installer for GNU Emacs?
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 22:40:51 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871xuc99r0.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ullslrp8n.fsf@ID-87814.user.dfncis.de> (Oliver Scholz's message of "Fri, 19 Sep 2003 13:28:56 +0200")

>>>>> "os" == Oliver Scholz <epameinondas@gmx.de> writes:

    os> The GPL FAQ seems to see two orthogonal issues here.  I
    os> believe, from its point of view every person is automatically
    os> granted with the rights covered by the GPL, provided, of
    os> course, that a person can get hold of a copy.

That's what clause 0 of the GPL says.  Whether it would stand up in
court in case of theft is another matter.

    os> The entitlement happens for everybody as soon as the software
    os> is released.  Stealing is a separate issue, which does not
    os> affect the copyright aspect.

That's right, for parts of the work already GPLed.

However, if there is any proprietary (ie, not specifically licensed
under the GPL) code included, then it is _not_ covered by the GPL.  As
long as you have not distributed that code, you retain copyright, ie,
all rights, by default.  Since you haven't distributed, you have done
nothing to require that your code be GPLed, even if you have accepted
the GPL itself (eg, by past redistribution of verbatim copies).  So
you can sue the thief under copyright law, and you can reclaim copies
from third parties.

I think this preserves all the rights to "work-in-progress" that David
is worried about.

    os> I wonder whether that particular case is different again. I
    os> wonder whether your code actually _can_ be covered by the GPL,
    os> before you deliver it to anybody.

Yes, it can.  See clause 0.  This could be useful: suppose you get hit
by a train.  Your heirs sell your notebooks _but not the copyrights_
to a library, and now anyone who reads them may copy and publish
because it's under the GPL.  Very hypothetical, of course.

    os> Maybe I will ask my flat mate.

Please do.  :-)


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-09-19 13:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-09-12 16:20 May I publish a Windows Installer for GNU Emacs? Frank Schmitt
2003-09-12 17:28 ` David Kastrup
2003-09-12 17:37   ` Frank Schmitt
     [not found]     ` <ich@Frank-Schmitt.net>
2003-09-12 18:52       ` Peter S Galbraith
2003-09-12 20:20         ` David Kastrup
2003-09-12 20:50           ` Frank Schmitt
2003-09-13  9:02             ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2003-09-15  4:53           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-09-15 23:07             ` Richard Stallman
2003-09-16  6:54               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-09-16  7:42                 ` Miles Bader
2003-09-16 22:27                 ` David Kastrup
2003-09-17 12:01                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-09-17 12:44                     ` David Kastrup
2003-09-18 11:06                       ` Richard Stallman
2003-09-18 13:05                         ` David Kastrup
2003-09-18 22:44                           ` Richard Stallman
2003-09-18 23:05                             ` David Kastrup
2003-09-19  4:58                           ` Oliver Scholz
2003-09-19  9:49                             ` David Kastrup
     [not found]                               ` <ullslrp8n.fsf@ID-87814.user.dfncis.de>
2003-09-19 13:40                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2003-09-19 15:06                               ` Richard Stallman
2003-09-19 10:49                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-09-21  0:51                 ` Kevin Ryde
2003-09-16  6:17         ` Frank Schmitt
2003-09-12 19:44 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2003-09-12 20:07   ` Peter Lee
2003-09-12 21:00     ` Jason Rumney
2003-09-13  2:27       ` Peter Lee
2003-09-12 20:47   ` Frank Schmitt
2003-09-13 14:01     ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2003-09-14  7:47       ` Frank Schmitt
2003-09-13  9:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-09-13 11:10   ` Frank Schmitt
2003-09-13 13:57 ` Richard Stallman
2003-09-13 19:25   ` Frank Schmitt

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