From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Info enhancements Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 12:46:00 +0200 Organization: JURTA Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <871xrfy4d3.fsf@mail.jurta.org> References: <878ylrbbk4.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <200312051426.hB5EQeZ11287@f7.net> <87ekvjuuj8.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <200312051802.hB5I2EC04476@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <87d6b2iyec.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87brqkl3x2.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87vfor62k9.fsf@mail.jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1070880939 17004 80.91.224.253 (8 Dec 2003 10:55:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:55:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, karl@freefriends.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 08 11:55:28 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ATJ32-0007tD-00 for ; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 11:55:28 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ATJ32-00074I-00 for ; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 11:55:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ATJvg-0001py-TP for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 06:51:56 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ATJv9-0001gw-0E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 06:51:23 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ATJua-0001X2-Tj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 06:51:20 -0500 Original-Received: from [64.246.52.22] (helo=ns5.tangramltd.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.24) id 1ATJs7-0001Gk-2B; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 06:48:15 -0500 Original-Received: from 80-235-39-153-dsl.mus.estpak.ee ([80.235.39.153] helo=mail.jurta.org) by ns5.tangramltd.com with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1ATIub-0003Aw-Db; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 12:46:45 +0200 Original-To: Miles Bader In-Reply-To: (Miles Bader's message of "08 Dec 2003 19:29:01 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ns5.tangramltd.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jurta.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:18549 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:18549 Miles Bader writes: > Juri Linkov writes: >> I still think that replacing a "note" with "see" has no sense because >> if the user prefers to set the Info-hide-note-references to t this >> means that he don't want to see any tags before the reference name. > > `See' makes perfect sense -- it makes the reference into (usually) > correct english without drawing undue attention to itself, which is in > keeping with the style of the documentation, whereas the *Note crap is > just ugly obfuscation. These attempts to fix the *Note to produce correct English cause too much trouble: inserting the text "See" into Info buffers breaks some Info functions (e.g. `Info-last', `Info-search'). >> Since references are fontified in a different color the user can >> already recognize a reference without an additional hint that >> encourages him to follow this reference. > > [Doesn't work too well on non-color displays, and yes those exist.] It works on non-color displays very well because in this case it underlines the references (just like web browsers do). -- http://www.jurta.org/emacs/