From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lute Kamstra Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: define-derived-mode Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 15:53:16 +0200 Message-ID: <871x8cczzn.fsf@xs4all.nl> References: <200505080101.j48117N24298@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200505080315.j483F2l24405@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200505081748.j48HmHm26026@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1115906222 19718 80.91.229.2 (12 May 2005 13:57:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 13:57:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Luc Teirlinck , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 12 15:56:47 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DWE6W-0006D6-34 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:51:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DWEFS-0007Ox-QU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:01:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DWECR-0005rk-Iv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 May 2005 09:58:03 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DWECG-0005k4-17 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 May 2005 09:57:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DWECF-0005iw-Ek for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 May 2005 09:57:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [194.109.24.25] (helo=smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DWEEh-0001fm-PG; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:00:24 -0400 Original-Received: from pijl (a80-127-67-124.adsl.xs4all.nl [80.127.67.124]) by smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CDrLL0041510; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:53:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Lute.Kamstra@xs4all.nl) Original-Received: from lute by pijl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1DWE7t-00010Y-00; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:53:21 +0200 Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon, 09 May 2005 04:57:44 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) Original-Lines: 19 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:37034 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:37034 Richard Stallman writes: > If I understood correctly, define-generic-mode only started > constructing automatic defcustoms recently, which was an incompatible > change. In that case, it could easily be reversed, which would make > the two major mode defining functions consistent in this respect. > > For define-minor-mode, the situation is more complex. It already > defined defcustoms in 21.3. So here, removing them would be an > incompatible change. It is possible that some users already > customized these hooks through Custom. > > Such a change is no big deal. Let's turn off generation of these > defcustoms. I just did this for define-generic-mode. I'll do define-minor-mode as well. Lute.