From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Scratch buffer annoyance Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 17:45:01 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <871wdz4m8i.fsf@jurta.org> References: <87zm18v7ug.fsf@jurta.org> <85abt7kck1.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87hcndc3zc.fsf@jurta.org> <87643pbqjq.fsf@jurta.org> <85643ppor9.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87sl6sbjaw.fsf@jurta.org> <87fy2oms2y.fsf@jurta.org> <85sl6o3rj1.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <873aykml2v.fsf@jurta.org> <87bqd744yp.fsf@jurta.org> <87ir7dlrhe.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1187534752 26500 80.91.229.12 (19 Aug 2007 14:45:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 14:45:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rgm@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 19 16:45:50 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IMm2G-0000He-2G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Aug 2007 16:45:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IMm2F-0004n1-IS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Aug 2007 10:45:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IMm2B-0004mV-Eq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Aug 2007 10:45:43 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IMm28-0004mI-96 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Aug 2007 10:45:43 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IMm28-0004mF-5j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Aug 2007 10:45:40 -0400 Original-Received: from relay02.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.197]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IMm26-0000wu-4u; Sun, 19 Aug 2007 10:45:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay02.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IMm1y-000Arz-J4; Sun, 19 Aug 2007 17:45:33 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sat\, 18 Aug 2007 20\:44\:47 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Scanner-Signature: 233cb89e4cdd9c68f6fe52a505261b56 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Not Detected X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 1390 [August 17 2007] X-SpamTest-Info: helo_type=3 X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 10 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0255], KAS30/Release X-Detected-Kernel: FreeBSD 4.8-5.1 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:76749 Archived-At: > For instance, after the recent changes, the default normal tty startup > text doesn't fit in a 24-line screen. That is a real problem. > > How shall we make it fit on a 24-line screen? I changed this screen to fit on 24 lines: moved "Browse manuals" to the same line as "Emacs manual", and squeezed Useful tasks into two lines. Also I renamed the buffer " About GNU Emacs" to "*About GNU Emacs*", and " GNU Emacs" to "*GNU Emacs*", because otherwise it defeats the purpose of all recent changes which was to make the *scratch* buffer less accessible. Before renaming when the user selects a link on the startup screen (for instance, to read the manual), and after reading exits from Info, then the *scratch* buffer becomes the current buffer! That's because the leading space in the startup buffer name hides this buffer after exiting from Info. Now after renaming to "*GNU Emacs*", the user returns to the startup screen after exiting from Info, and can continue reading more information from the startup screen and can select another link. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/