From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Release plans Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:27:47 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <871w1t4b7w.fsf@jurta.org> References: <87r69wcxn7.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216255333 23590 80.91.229.12 (17 Jul 2008 00:42:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:42:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 17 02:43:01 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KJHaG-0002EN-9o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 02:43:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42624 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KJHZN-0002RS-P4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:42:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KJHXj-0000Iy-JS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:40:23 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KJHXg-0000Gd-Th for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:40:22 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=54778 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KJHXg-0000GJ-Kl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:40:20 -0400 Original-Received: from anti-4.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.202]:61273) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KJHXg-00083y-7u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:40:20 -0400 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by anti-4.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KJHXZ-0008pu-Ok; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:40:14 +0300 In-Reply-To: <87r69wcxn7.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (Chong Yidong's message of "Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:07:24 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-Scanner-Signature: 7b6940144bc5d56bdacd12344196c2df X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Trusted X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 4342 [July 17 2008] X-SpamTest-Info: {received from trusted relay: common white list} X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Method: white ip list X-SpamTest-Rate: 10 X-SpamTest-Status: Trusted X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: trusted X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0278], KAS30/Release X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 6.x (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:100853 Archived-At: > Just a reminder: we will begin the feature freeze for Emacs 23.1 at the > end of this month. > > The original plan was to merge CEDET in time for the freeze. However, > this isn't going to happen because of a delay in legal paperwork; > hopefully, CEDET will be included in 23.2. I have doubts that CEDET can be included in Emacs 23 without adding more features because some parts have to be rewritten to be more clean (like replacing defadvices with Emacs native features etc.) Emacs 23.1 has enough major features, so maybe it makes sense to include CEDET in the next major release after 23.1 with more related Emacs features (like tabbed UI and others), and advertise it as Emacs IDE. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/