From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Antoine Levitt Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Binding M-n and M-p to forward-paragraphandbackward-paragraphrespectively Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2011 12:19:06 +0200 Message-ID: <871v1d82qt.fsf_-_@gmail.com> References: <35CCFF878F0B4C22B25E6A12CB3B2FCE@us.oracle.com> <871v1ej65p.fsf@gmail.com> <536E080C1DE54AAA9CA25BD3DBC4D0C0@us.oracle.com> <87lizldinz.fsf@gmail.com> <87fwptdiey.fsf@gmail.com> <87mxk1vm5y.fsf@gmail.com> <4D9E3AFF.2080301@harpegolden.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1302258034 30466 80.91.229.12 (8 Apr 2011 10:20:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 10:20:34 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 08 12:20:31 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q88nm-0007MH-Ae for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2011 12:20:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41447 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q88nk-0005LW-Px for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2011 06:20:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=34041 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q88na-0005Hw-RE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2011 06:20:19 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q88nZ-0004wL-75 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2011 06:20:18 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:47067) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q88nZ-0004vt-0n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2011 06:20:17 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q88nV-0007Db-KW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2011 12:20:13 +0200 Original-Received: from portable113.ceremade.dauphine.fr ([193.48.71.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 08 Apr 2011 12:20:13 +0200 Original-Received: from antoine.levitt by portable113.ceremade.dauphine.fr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 08 Apr 2011 12:20:13 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 19 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: portable113.ceremade.dauphine.fr User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:138309 Archived-At: 08/04/11 00:30, David De La Harpe Golden > On 07/04/11 21:31, Antoine Levitt wrote: > >> I've got this bound globally as well. It just makes sense with the >> global idea that C- is for atomic movements, and M- for group >> movement. > > Er. In this particular case, M-{ and M-} are already conveniently > bound to the movement by paragraph functions (and C-up/C-down...), > anyway, aren't they? Certain non-us keyboard layouts make '{' and '}' > harder to type I suppose, but do we really need a third pair of > bindings for the same damn actions? Hell, I tend to think of the > C-up/C-down one as less than useful, but I expect I edit bulk natural > language text in emacs a lot less than some users. Ah, yes, that's a good point. I use a french keyboard layout where M-{} is a pain to type, so I missed that. But since emacs pretty much assumes a US layout and paragraph functions are already bound to those, there's no sense in binding them to M-n and M-p additionally.