From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Added basic file system watching support. Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:17:28 +0100 Message-ID: <871uew6847.fsf@gmx.de> References: <6218185.ViukoKRdFp@descartes> <1604303.YKOVcvQH0F@descartes> <8738zd6n1t.fsf@gmx.de> <83ip899fd7.fsf@gnu.org> <87y5h557cx.fsf@gmx.de> <83fw3d9elh.fsf@gnu.org> <87pq2h5660.fsf@gmx.de> <83ehix9bcs.fsf@gnu.org> <87a9tk6g49.fsf@gmx.de> <836248ah0u.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1355231878 4680 80.91.229.3 (11 Dec 2012 13:17:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:17:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ruediger@c-plusplus.de, sdl.web@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 11 14:18:09 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TiPir-0000xM-CW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:18:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55002 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TiPie-0005mf-9T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:17:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:55926) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TiPiW-0005ln-V9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:17:54 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TiPiI-0004TY-Pq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:17:48 -0500 Original-Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.22]:59312) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TiPiI-0004TH-Fh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:17:34 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 11 Dec 2012 13:17:32 -0000 Original-Received: from p57BB98D5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO detlef.gmx.de) [87.187.152.213] by mail.gmx.net (mp072) with SMTP; 11 Dec 2012 14:17:32 +0100 X-Authenticated: #3708877 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+e81gbOx6eqwdAIl6xXaECDKb6xmxRvtgpQToKbR r6MwPX8Pnrltnx In-Reply-To: <836248ah0u.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:51:29 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 213.165.64.22 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:155466 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> For me, it would be sufficient to regard Tramp handlers as an extension >> to inotify-add-watch and inotify-rm-watch, and not as a third backend in >> parallel to two others. > > But then inotify-*-watch primitives will have to be able to be > compiled on platforms where HAVE_INOTIFY is not defined. Currently, > this is impossible, so what you regard as sufficient would limit this > feature to GNU/Linux users and remote files on other GNU/Linux > systems. I don't think such a limitation is desirable. I've implemented a quick shot what's possible just now. If we have a more general solution, I'm open. Your proposal with a unified API would do it, but it means we need to unify. Now we have seen in practice first problems. Since I'm not an inotify expert, I would let the proposal for such an API to somebody else. I would participate if it comes to practical details for Tramp implementation. If support for remote files is desired. Bes regards, Michael.